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Connecticut residents question about ammo sales
I have someone who's interested in buying some ammo from me. The ammo is surplus 7.62x54 (Mosin Nagant). I'm in PA and he's driving down to PA from Connecticut. I know they have some restrictions there but I'm guessing it only applies to in state purchases. Is it ok for me to sell him ammo?
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08-18-2017, 08:14 AM
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I didn't do any more research than this:
Ammunition Regulation | Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence
Here's the part I'd be worried about :
Six states have enacted laws regulating ammunition sales and requiring purchasers to pass a background check in order to buy ammunition. Two states, California and New York, have passed laws requiring point-of-sale background checks on ammunition purchasers, in a manner similar to background checks conducted on firearm purchasers. Four other states, (Connecticut, Illinois, Massachusetts, and New Jersey) require individuals to obtain a relevant license or permit, after passing a background check, in order to purchase or possess ammunition.
He/she might not be eligible to buy ammunition in Connecticut . . .
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Right! Clear as mud! Lol. (I mean the article not you). It SEEMS like they have to have a purchase permit to buy IN their state but not outside of their state. For instance, go to any gun store or show in PA and, unless you look like you're 12, no one will ask for your ID. Regardless of where you live.
The person in question owns firearms so I'm assuming he can buy ammo as well.
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If you walk into any ammunition retailer or gun show in Texas, they would sell about anyone over 18 all they ammo they want without any record keeping, etc. I suppose that's the same situation in PA. So I cannot see that you are breaking any laws (unless PA has some prohibition on selling ammo to someone from out of state).
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If you walk into any ammunition retailer or gun show in Texas, they would sell about anyone over 18 all they ammo they want without any record keeping, etc. I suppose that's the same situation in PA. So I cannot see that you are breaking any laws (unless PA has some prohibition on selling ammo to someone from out of state).
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Nope no such laws here. Like in TX......walk in with money and leave with ammo. No ID needed unless you really really don't look old enough
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The only law here in Missouri would be the federal law that prevents you from knowingly selling firearms and ammunition to prohibited persons . . .
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Connecticut residents question about ammo sales
Arik, I read the citation that Muss Muggins posted.
Unless I missed it, it appears that the Connecticut resident would have to fulfill those requirements for the state of Connecticut even if the purchase was made in another state (Pennsylvania in this case).
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I agree with Muss Muggins. It looks like the buyer is attempting to circumvent the law of his state. Knowingly selling to this person may not result in your breaking the law, but it could. Why not send the ammo to an FFL in the buyer's state and let him pick it up there? This situation smells bad. I would be very hesitant to get involved.
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Arik, I read the citation that Muss Muggins posted.
Unless I missed it, it appears that the Connecticut resident would have to fulfill those requirements for the state of Connecticut even if the purchase was made in another state (Pennsylvania in this case).
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I can offer from experience that merely possessing firearms or ammunition in Illinois, regardless of the origin and even if one is otherwise legally able to do so, without a Firearms Owner Identification Card (FOID) is a state criminal offense . . .
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No problems here in Ohio back in the late seventies you had to show ID. Handgun owners cards went away as well.
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In ct it's a ammo purchase card or a pistol permit or a c&r or ffl license.
There trying to keep the ammo from the bad guys.
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I live about 20 miles north of Massachusetts in New Hampshire and the Wally World near me asks for an ID.
I asked why and the cashier said he couldn't sell to Mass. people. I buy most ammo on line so I don't know if it is a law or store policy?
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"Two states, California and New York, have passed laws requiring point-of-sale background checks on ammunition purchasers, in a manner similar to background checks conducted on firearm purchaser" CA law doesn't go into effect until 2018 for internet sales etc.
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If it's legal in PA for you to sell ammo to anyone, then you are legal. It may not be legal for him to buy from you (I don't know about that). But that's his problem, not yours.
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"Two states, California and New York, have passed laws requiring point-of-sale background checks on ammunition purchasers, in a manner similar to background checks conducted on firearm purchaser" CA law doesn't go into effect until 2018 for internet sales etc.
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The FBI told the NYSP to go pound sand when they were asked to conduct BGC's for ammo. Since NY has no means to BGC ammo sales at this point it's mostly moot. The state supposedly allocated millions to set up a system but 4 years after the law was passed has not implemented one.
No one checks at point of sale, except for the occasional WM employee asking to see a DL or PP.
Where it has had an effect has been in mail order sales. Many distributors have refused to sell to individuals in NY because they, rightfully so, are confused about the law, and some have been pressured by the state AG with false threats. Why would anyone want the hassle when they have 47 or so other states to sell to with zero problems.
There are a few distributors who do ship ammo to individuals in NY, legally as of now, you just need to know who they are. They basically told the Gov and NYSP to pound sand.
The mere mention of this part, the ammo BGC, of the UNSAFE Law has served it's purpose, scaring off distributors,, even though the mechanism for BGC's does not exist.
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If any of the big online ammo retailers wouldn't sell ammo to him, neither would I. And my sense is they wouldn't. Besides, why would someone jump through the hoops of driving from CT to PA to buy common ammo?
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If any of the big online ammo retailers wouldn't sell ammo to him, neither would I. And my sense is they wouldn't. Besides, why would someone jump through the hoops of driving from CT to PA to buy common ammo?
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I don't know why. Connecticut is not too far away. Depending on beginning and ending destinations it could be a 3hr drive. I once made it from north of Hartford CT to Philadelphia in less than 4hrs in NYC traffic so it's not too far away. He could just as easily be coming down to visit friends or family or going to the Jersey shore, which is only an hour away. And ...... supposedly....he had a purchase permit from CT
That being said I had my reservations so I politely cancelled it
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(Connecticut, Illinois, Massachusetts, and New Jersey) require individuals to obtain a relevant license or permit, after passing a background check, in order to purchase or possess ammunition.
If he has a license or permit, It should be OK....
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