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May get banned but this is very disturbing and needs to be known.

The Mayor of Dallas TEXAS has told the NRA that the city does not want the NRA meeting there !

This is a firearm forum, I assume 99% of us own or have an interest in firearms.

If there is not at least 99% of us who are Members of the National Rifle Association there should be.

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Like many of us here my time on this old earth is limited but we have to support this organization now because it is an important part of freedom for the future of the United States.
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Et tu Texas

Well, it is Dallas.


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I wish I could blame the NRA or the police for all of my problems. But I want to actually fix (some of ) my problems.
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Mayor pro tem

It's his way of "connecting the dots"

He has spoken and "taken action" So it's all good now.

"The NRA needs to step up to the plate, and they need to show leadership."

How does moving the event someplace change anything?
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"How does moving the event someplace change anything?"

Yep, a lot of money coming into Dallas area businesses. I wonder how his constituents will feel about that.
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"How does moving the event someplace change anything?"

Yep, a lot of money coming into Dallas area businesses. I wonder how his constituents will feel about that.
Very true, but with the requisite mass protests likely to occur, the city will be spending a lot for added security and crowd control. The irony being that NRA Members will make a host city safer, while the anti-gun people will be dangerous. As always.
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First off, he is not the "Mayor of Dallas". He is the Mayor Pro Tem of the city council which is nowhere near as powerful as an actual elected Mayor. (Besides he doesn't seem to have a consensus within the council.)
I really don't expect this political ploy to gain much traction. (Especially if the NRA brings a breach of contract suit against the city.)
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As do many, this gentleman never misses an opportunity to appear before a camera. To say that his opinion is unlikely to generate much support here is an understatement.

As a proud Life Member of the NRA, I am delighted the meeting is close enough for me to attend this year!
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Several years ago, I presented my Grandson with a Life Membership in the NRA.

If your worried about your legacy continuing, make sure it will.
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HINT: dallas is not the only city in the world.....
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...I don't know how many here have seen this billboard in Louisville Kentucky...not good...

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I can't imagine an advertising company taking that ad. Are you SURE that it's real and not photoshop?

Spoke too soon, found numerous reports. Sad
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I can't imagine an advertising company taking that ad. Are you SURE that it's real and not photoshop?
...they're claiming it was vandalism...mighty neatly done vandalism...


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We, as gun owners and as NRA members are taking the blame for the deeds that the people who are not qualified as gun owners as well as those who do not choose to obey laws. The arguments that are presented will not make anything better but will further burden those who are law abiding. I have observed that those who are opposed to gun ownership do not use common sense nor do they depend on facts when they propose the increase in restrictions on gun ownership.
We, as gun owners and NRA members need to be intelligent in our endeavors to retain our rights so as to continue to oppose those who are bent on we US citizens becoming subservient, when our rights are taken from us as gun owners the remainder of our rights will not be far behind! In my opinion!
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In short the NRA needs everyone one of us when this Nationwide assault is gearing up.
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350 million guns in private hands.....anti gun folks can say and do what they want, they are never getting that many out of circulation. The event will go on as planned.
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I imagine this will do nothing other than to increase membership and convention attendance. I wasn't planning to go, but I may now. If I do, I will be staying in Ft. Worth.
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Who cares where the money is coming from? The NRA gets their money from gun manufacturers and Russia; if we start making it about who gets what money from where it's going to get ugly real quick.
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I have attended NRA Annual Meetings from Houston to Pittsburgh and everywhere in between. These meetings are planned more than a year in advance. Between the seminars, rallies, concerts, speakers, and 800 exhibitors , there is something for everyone. I hope we have a record attendance this year to let all those in power know that we are serious about defending our rights.

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May get banned but this is very disturbing and needs to be known.

The Mayor of Dallas TEXAS has told the NRA that the city does not want the NRA meeting there !

This is a firearm forum, I assume 99% of us own or have an interest in firearms.

If there is not at least 99% of us who are Members of the National Rifle Association there should be.

Please join immediately !

Like many of us here my time on this old earth is limited but we have to support this organization now because it is an important part of freedom for the future of the United States.
We had to explain this after Columbine when the Annual Meeting was scheduled for Denver. The NRA CAN'T go anywhere else due to statutory requirements for a nationally chartered organization. It's not like our meeting is scheduled for Fort Lauderdale or Miami. If it were, I have no doubt that we would cancel everything except the business meeting like we did in Denver. But Dallas? Please.

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I live near Fort Worth and would rather take a beating than cross the Tarrant County line in to Dallas.

Amon Carter, founder of the Fort Worth newspaper and Cowtown icon, carried a bag lunch whenever business took him to Dallas so as not to spend any money there.
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...centrally located cities that would be glad to have them.

Columbus, Indianapolis, Memphis, Omaha, New Orleans, St. Louis?????
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Well, yeah...there is Ft. Worth...and Houston...and Amarillo...and El Paso...there is even Irving and Plano...so, yeah there are other cities in the world.
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Let's not fool ourselves. No state is immune from this knee jerk reaction...and the fact is that it has been in motion for quite a while now.

Your rights are under attack and the opposition doesn't care if their approach is well reasoned or in accordance with the facts.

If it sounds good and "progressive", don't you dare be caught not standing in line and shouting "me too!".

The less personal responsibility folks take for their actions and the actions of others, the more they blame inanimate objects including the manufacturers of those objects.

These folks refuse to take a hard look in the mirror, and figure that a hardware change will rectify the problem with their internal software. 'Taint so.
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Let me see your tax return itemized deductions (1040 Sch A) over the past ten years and I'll answer that question.
Direct contributions to the NRA are not tax deductible, so no need to call out the 1040's.

I donate monthly, and have to shop better every day to leave money for that, and meds, and chemo that I have to pay out of pocket. But the NRA is on my list, and has been for years.
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Russia?!? Please substantiate that claim.

Seems to me like a country such as Russia - which has been the USA's "opposite number" since the end of WWII - wouldn't want to see the US Populace armed, and therefore wouldn't support the #1 organization that helps ensure that we don't loose our 2nd amendment rights.

So I'd really like to see some credible evidence and a reasonable explanation of why Russia would support the NRA before I'm going to buy that one.

And yeah, the fact that you obviously don't know that contributions to the NRA aren't tax deductible makes it pretty obvious you aren't a contributor. Epic fail on your part there buddy.

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Did the Kremlin Give Money to the National Rifle Association to Help Trump?

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I'm a CPA. Whether I give money or not to the NRA, I know the IRC for deductible of contributions; and such contributions are only totaled on the sch A in any case, they are detailed on another form (number escapes me right now).

And no, I don't give money to the NRA. The NRA doesn't support my rights, it supports gun manufacturer rights. I give my own money to my representatives, and communicate directly with them via volunteer work. If the NRA wants my money, it can get it from S&W.

And if you want membership in the NRA to be a litmas test for 2nd amendment support, be prepared to drive off 75% of gun owners.
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Did the Kremlin Give Money to the National Rifle Association to Help Trump?

I'm a CPA. Whether I give money or not to the NRA, I know the IRC for deductible of contributions; and such contributions are only totaled on the sch A in any case, they are detailed on another form (number escapes me right now).

And no, I don't give money to the NRA. The NRA doesn't support my rights, it supports gun manufacturer rights. I give my own money to my representatives, and communicate directly with them via volunteer work. If the NRA wants my money, it can get it from S&W.

And if you want membership in the NRA to be a litmas test for 2nd amendment support, be prepared to drive off 75% of gun owners.
LOL, SNOPES? It is well documented which side of the issues THEY come down on. Like I said, I need to see come evidence from a credible source. I didn't see any in there - though I did see a lot of unsubstantiated insinuations that something untoward was going on. Like that the NRA spent more in support of Trump than they did of Romney. Not sure exactly what that is supposed to prove. As I see it the organization recognized that Trump had a chance and warranted the support - Romney never had a chance so he didn't get as much support.

BTW, did you read the article you linked? All innuendo, and "allegations" by "unnamed sources". It talks a lot about the investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians. Which in case you haven't noticed is an investigation that has produced no real evidence in over a year. It reads just like all the other MSM hit pieces. Long on sensational allegations, but VERY short on any facts.

Just curious, but how exactly is it that you see representing the interests of gun manufacturers as somehow unrelated or opposed to representing the interests of gun owners?

NRA membership isn't a litmus test for 2nd Amendment support. Gun owners are just like any other human population so the old 80/20 rule applies. 20% of the people do 80% of the work - the other 80% do the remaining 20% of the work - and a fair number do nothing at all.

The fact that you obviously believe in Snopes as an unbiased credible source, and at the same time so obviously despise the NRA, does tend to make your interest and membership here a bit of a curiosity - at least to me...

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