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...Grizzly Bears. Amber Komak is now in ICU. She DID have bear spray and a satellite radio, which saved her life.


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Hadn’t heard of this, but it sounds like my kind of woman.

Two skull fractures, plus neck and back injuries. Gets rid of the bear with spray, and despite spraying herself accidentally in the process, hikes two miles to her car and drives herself to where the helo picks her up for the medevac to surgery ...
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I always have a J-frame in my pocket when I study grizzly bears.

Of course, they're on the National Geographic channel, but why take unnecessary chances?
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Maybe she could convalesce at ParadiseRoad's house and get some bear watchin in while she's layin around.

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...she's welcome to come up and look at our bear...

...she really needs to have a little talk with Bella Twin...

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Few understand the danger of Grizzly encounters. Most often they sneak off to get away unoticed leaving tracks and fresh scat around as the only sign you were close. However when they attack and become enraged they speed and strength multiplies as would you under a feeling of threat. Their power is something to behold. Not so many years ago I lived in the Mission Valley on the Flathead Indian Reservation. This is the heart of Grizz country. Out stump shooting with my bow a buddy of mine and myself followed tracks in the skift of spring snow that were grizz. It was "grubbing. It was flipping over rocks bigger than medicine balls some of which the two of us couldn't move. Now THIS was a walking calm bear! This young gal was very lucky. I wish her speedy recovery and a bit more awareness when back at her job IF she gets to go back.
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Every time I see a story like this I think back to Steve Irwin. I believe everyone who watched him felt it was just a matter of time before something went wrong perhaps horribly wrong. Unfortunately that's exactly what happened in his case.
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I thought the very same thing about Timothy Treadwell, that it was just a matter of time.
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That bear attack from the “Revenant” is pretty awesome, considering there was no bear at all involved.

Here’s what it looks like when you try to do it without trained bears and CGI doesn’t exist yet

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Sorry to hear that gal got herself in a jam up with a bear........
Hope she uses her new found knowledge in future studies.

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I like to watch grizzle bears.....I generally use a spotting scope.

And I know why I also keep a short handy 45-70 close by.

As firesticks mentioned above....I too, have watch grizzles digging for ground squirrels,
moving rocks and logs that would tax two strong men to begin to move. Watched a sow
with cubs one time catching those lit'l squirrels with lighting speed...A human can't start to match.


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Here’s what it looks like when you try to do it without trained bears and CGI doesn’t exist yet

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LOL!!! That made me laugh out loud. I'm sure in it's day that scene was pretty awesome too.
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...she's welcome to come up and look at our bear...

...she really needs to have a little talk with Bella Twin...

That gun she's got is a .22. The answer to the 'What is the perfect bear caliber" question. So being answered this question needs never come up again. Just tell them to do a search for Bella Twin.

The gun was a Cooey Ace 1. A single shot loaded with .22 long in a weak spot in the head. She said that her father told her to make sure an animal is dead before you approach it. She put 6 more shots into a small area on its skull where she knew the bone was thinnest.

She was about 5 feet tall.

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Hope she uses her new found knowledge in future studies.

I like to watch grizzle bears.....I generally use a spotting scope.

And I know why I also keep a short handy 45-70 close by.

Agree with you there. If I couldn't have a .30-06 along, my next choice would be a lever action .45-70. Either one of those would meet my criteria for best all around wilderness rifle.
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I've had bears come through camp on different occasions....
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I thought the very same thing about Timothy Treadwell, that it was just a matter of time.


Yup.

He and his GF didn’t just get killed, either. They were eaten. This was after warnings that bears had been seen stalking people, and they’d better get hell out.

Treadwell thought he and the bears were BFFs.

Apparently the bears viewed the relationship differently once they got hungry.
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Treadwell thought he and the bears were BFFs.

Apparently the bears viewed the relationship differently once they got hungry.
Treadwell was a strange bird on a completely different level. I recommend reading Nick Jans’ book “The Grizzly Maze” which goes into the details of the weird con games Treadwell played with the public.

He only could do his stuff because he did NOT work with wild grizzlies, but usually hung out around the coastal browns habituated to humans to some degrees.

The saddest part is how his girlfriend got suckered into it. She really was not an outdoor person and seems to have been very reluctant to return to the lake with Treadwell where they both ended up killed.
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Treadwell was a strange bird on a completely different level.
There are some people...genuine researchers, usually well educated...who know what they're doing. Dian Fossey comes to mind with her gorillas. Jane Goodall with her chimps. And especially Shaun Ellis with his wolves.

I can only look at Treadwell as a foolish and misguided man. His heart may have been in the right place regarding bears, but he simply didn't know what he was doing. Fossey, Ellis, and Goodall learned as they went along, but Treadwell never really immersed himself in bears. He was a thrill seeker and sought notoriety, and that mindset got him and his girlfriend killed in a most horrible fashion.








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When Treadwell was on Letterman , Dave asked him if we were going to read a news article about him being eaten by a bear.
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I believe the film "Backcountry" has about the most realistic bear attack footage I have seen.... making use of an actual black bear (not vouching for the movie plot, but it is tense and frightening.
And of course, the Kodiak bear used in the movie "The Edge" is such a pure mountain of muscle and terror that he is totally frightening despite being the familiar "Bart" in one of his last movie roles.

And, in remembrance of the recently deceased Clint Walker, I remember being frightened as a kid of the scene from "Night of the Grizzly" where an unarmed Clint takes cover in a tangle of deadfall roots while an enraged griz tries to dig him out.....Clint fighting off the bear with his Bowie knife.
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My favorite bear attack on film was in, Clan of the Cave Bear.

Some guy trying to impress Ayla (Darryl Hannah) fought a bear and was soon dead. He, ah, just lost his head that way.

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And of course, the Kodiak bear used in the movie "The Edge" is such a pure mountain of muscle and terror that he is totally frightening despite being the familiar "Bart" in one of his last movie roles.

And, in remembrance of the recently deceased Clint Walker, I remember being frightened as a kid of the scene from "Night of the Grizzly" where an unarmed Clint takes cover in a tangle of deadfall roots while an enraged griz tries to dig him out.....Clint fighting off the bear with his Bowie knife.
When those big bears open their mouth and throat it looks like you could drop a nail keg in there. I saw a video where a bear tossed a guy up in the air and tried to catch him in his mouth on the way down like an M&M.
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That's one brave and tough lady right there. I'd be proud to call her my daughter. Lots of thread drift here, so I hope nobody's forgetting the fact that she survived what many don't, using courage and resourcefulness. What a story.
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Wondering what studying bears as a vocation pays, and what the health insurance is like . . .
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He only could do his stuff because he did NOT work with wild grizzlies, but usually hung out around the coastal browns habituated to humans to some degrees.

The saddest part is how his girlfriend got suckered into it. She really was not an outdoor person and seems to have been very reluctant to return to the lake with Treadwell where they both ended up killed.
From what I've read, he was pretty much a failed actor/film maker who was looking for some claim to fame.

I guess he found it.

There was a cam corder rolling through the whole attack, audio only that I know of. Not something to listen to right before bed.
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Wondering what studying bears as a vocation pays, and what the health insurance is like . . .
How about the life insurance? Is it non-qualifying? Or do you have to prove you were of sound mind & body before a bear ate you?

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That bear attack from the “Revenant” is pretty awesome, considering there was no bear at all involved.

Here’s what it looks like when you try to do it without trained bears and CGI doesn’t exist yet

Winnetou fights a bear (Winnetou B"arenkampf) - YouTube
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Of course, they're on the National Geographic channel, but why take unnecessary chances?
I was going to add "Why, so you can cap yourself if he starts eating from the feet up?" But it's fairly safe in your living room (I hope?...)
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How about the life insurance? Is it non-qualifying? Or do you have to prove you were of sound mind & body before a bear ate you?

Oh, wait, nevermind.
As a Fed, we (I) get Blue Cross/Blue Shield. My agency pays the first 60 days of "off work" if the injury is work related==the state picks it up from there. My agency requires ANNUAL first aid and CPR refreshers, including AED (just took it Wednesday of this week). All field parties (work groups) must have at least one person certified. My boss is an EMT and swift-water certified.

As a wildlife biologist, I have had numerous charges, bites, kicks, stompings, stingings and clawings==venomous and not. Most were pretty minor (My "lion attack" was a scared 8-week old African lion cub who tried to sit on my head, baboon tried to eat a finger, shark was 12", you get the idea==left scars and impressed the girls until they faded away)). However, we had a saying in grad school "Marine biologists end up as shark s---!" Electricians get shocked, firemen get burns, cowboys get thrown==it goes with the job.

But, they do come back to haunt you about age 65 or so!

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