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S&W Revolver in James Bond-"Goldfinger" 007 movie.
James Bond OO7 in Goldfinger is playing on Netflix now. Watched it last night. One of my favorites. The Aston Martin DB5 and it's features are explained to 007 by "Q" and there is a good chase scene with 1965 Mustang convertible so assumed it was filmed in 1965. In the scene where Bond is drugged and put on an airplane to Baltimore. When he awakens in flight, the woman pilot ***** Galore pulls a S&W revolver on him. Bond calls it a "S&W 45" and tells her what would happen if she shot and missed him at altitude. Looks like a registered magnum to me. She carries it later in the scene.
Forgot that part was in there.
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IMDb firearms database identifies it as a S&W model 22. It looks like a .45 revolver with fixed sights in the photos.
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IMDB guns says it's a Model 22, but they're wrong.
It's a 4" fixed sight N frame with a shrouded ejector rod.
My Thunder Ranch 22 fits that description, but the 22 when that movie was made did not have a shrouded rod. It was simply a 1917 cut down to four inches - bare rod.
At that time, the only guns fitting that description were a 38/44 Heavy Duty or a 44 Hand Ejector (third model, I believe). All other Ns with shrouded rods had adjustable sights.
The hole in the end looks too large to be a Heavy Duty, so that leaves the 44. According to the Standard Catalog the 44 was available in 45 Colt. So it could be a 45, or it could simply be a prop gun which had nothing to do with the dialogue.
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I got to sit in the James Bond Aston Martin DB5 in 65' or 66' thanks to a family member who worked at Sears (where the car was shown). I choose to sit in the "ejector seat" and hanging from the dash in a holster was either a Colt SA or Ruger with at least a 12" barrel.
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Having never read Ian Fleming's "Goldfinger", I always figured it had something to do with the book.
As usual in the 60's, smart kids like me knew better than to touch or pull the pistol out of the holster!
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I don't recall paying much attention to the gun..
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It has a shrouded ejector rod and fixed sights.
My guess is either a .38/44 Heavy Duty or a .44spl H.E. Third Model.
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I don't recall paying much attention to the gun..
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^^^^^ THIS, it wasn't S&W galore.
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In another early Bond movie I can't remember which one it was, A killer is on his way to kill Bond. He had stuffed pillows under the covers to look like he was in the bed.
The guy comes in carrying a semi-auto and dumps the entire mag into the bed. When he turns around thinking he just killed Bond he sees Bond sitting in a chair pointing his Walther 7.62X25 at him, the would be killer.
The killer gets a startled look on his face and Bond says, "That's a Smith and Wesson and you've had your six", then, with out any further fanfare shoots the bad guy. Just another run of the mill cool Bond moment.
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James Bond OO7 in Goldfinger is playing on Netflix now. Watched it last night. One of my favorites. The Aston Martin DB5 and it's features are explained to 007 by "Q" and there is a good chase scene with 1965 Mustang convertible so assumed it was filmed in 1965. In the scene where Bond is drugged and put on an airplane to Baltimore. When he awakens in flight, the woman pilot ***** Galore pulls a S&W revolver on him. Bond calls it a "S&W 45" and tells her what would happen if she shot and missed him at altitude. Looks like a registered magnum to me. She carries it later in the scene.
Forgot that part was in there.
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Goldfinger is a 1964 film.
BTW Sean Connery sat in the next booth to my wife and I in a gourmet diner in Miami. Looked like he had just come from playing golf.
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In another early Bond movie I can't remember which one it was, A killer is on his way to kill Bond. He had stuffed pillows under the covers to look like he was in the bed.
The guy comes in carrying a semi-auto and dumps the entire mag into the bed. When he turns around thinking he just killed Bond he sees Bond sitting in a chair pointing his Walther 7.62X25 at him, the would be killer.
The killer gets a startled look on his face and Bond says, "That's a Smith and Wesson and you've had your six", then, with out any further fanfare shoots the bad guy. Just another run of the mill cool Bond moment.
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In Hollywood, a gun is a gun. If it looks like a gun it doesn't matter about accuracy.
In that movie scene, the bad guy was quite obviously carrying a M1911. Bond himself had an FN.
I can remember when he was issued a Charter Arms "AR-7 sniper rifle caliber .25"
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In another early Bond movie I can't remember which one it was, A killer is on his way to kill Bond. He had stuffed pillows under the covers to look like he was in the bed.
The guy comes in carrying a semi-auto and dumps the entire mag into the bed. When he turns around thinking he just killed Bond he sees Bond sitting in a chair pointing his Walther 7.62X25 at him, the would be killer.
The killer gets a startled look on his face and Bond says, "That's a Smith and Wesson and you've had your six", then, with out any further fanfare shoots the bad guy. Just another run of the mill cool Bond moment.
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Just so you know. The silenced pistol Bond used in that scene is not a Walther PPK, but an FN 1910.
Just don't ask me why.
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Originally Posted by Walkin' Jack
In another early Bond movie I can't remember which one it was, A killer is on his way to kill Bond. He had stuffed pillows under the covers to look like he was in the bed.
The guy comes in carrying a semi-auto and dumps the entire mag into the bed. When he turns around thinking he just killed Bond he sees Bond sitting in a chair pointing his Walther 7.62X25 at him, the would be killer.
The killer gets a startled look on his face and Bond says, "That's a Smith and Wesson and you've had your six", then, with out any further fanfare shoots the bad guy. Just another run of the mill cool Bond moment.
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Th film was, Dr. No. But Bond really had a Browning 1910 posing as his Walther PPK in the usual 7.65mm Browning caliber. I imagine that the studio couldn't find a silencer for a Walther.
Jack, you are 'WAY off on caliber. The 7.62X25mm is for the Tokarev and some Czech guns like the M-52. It is MUCH hotter than the PPK uses. The cartridge was basically the old 7.63mm Mauser round, but with a heavier powder charge.
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The film was, Dr. No. But Bond really had a Browning 1910 posing as his Walther PPK in the usual 7.65mm Browning caliber. I imagine that the studio couldn't find a silencer for a Walther.
Jack, you are 'WAY off on caliber. The 7.62X25mm is for the Tokarev and some Czech guns like the M-52. It is MUCH hotter than the PPK uses. The cartridge was basically the old 7.63mm Mauser round, but with a heavier powder charge.
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And I think that JB (played by Roger Moore this time) had a Model 29 in a shoulder holster in the cemetery scene of "Live and Let Die".
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In another early Bond movie I can't remember which one it was, A killer is on his way to kill Bond. He had stuffed pillows under the covers to look like he was in the bed.
The guy comes in carrying a semi-auto and dumps the entire mag into the bed. When he turns around thinking he just killed Bond he sees Bond sitting in a chair pointing his Walther 7.62X25 at him, the would be killer.
The killer gets a startled look on his face and Bond says, "That's a Smith and Wesson and you've had your six", then, with out any further fanfare shoots the bad guy. Just another run of the mill cool Bond moment.
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And the bad guy used a 1911-waaay before S&W was making them .
Of course the line was lifted from the book so there ya go.
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Well, you all will be happy to know that you all passed the test. I just threw all that misinformation out there to see who was paying attention.
but sadly this was a result of failing memory. I can still remember a lot to stuff but it's mostly out of order now and MISREMEMBERED (if that isn't a word it should be)
The truth is out there...remembering it correctly, that's the trick.
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One of the Bond movies a woman pulled a revolver a guy on a boat , he said she had the safety on
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That's all right. One of Donald Hamilton's westerns, girl is pointing a gun at the hero and he tells her that if she wants to shoot him she needs to cock the gun first.
She looks down at the obviously cocked pistol - WHAT YOU TALKIN' ABOUT, WILLIS? - and while she's distracted he knocks the gun away.
Maybe telling her the safety was on was a distraction.
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I got to sit in the James Bond Aston Martin DB5 in 65' or 66' thanks to a family member who worked at Sears (where the car was shown). I choose to sit in the "ejector seat" and hanging from the dash in a holster was either a Colt SA or Ruger with at least a 12" barrel.
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Having never read Ian Fleming's "Goldfinger", I always figured it had something to do with the book.
As usual in the 60's, smart kids like me knew better than to touch or pull the pistol out of the holster!
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In at least one of the 007 books (Moonraker) Bond had a "long barreled Colt" carried in his car though as I recall he wrecked during a chase before he got to use it. It may have been mentioned in a couple other books as well, been a while since I read those.
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That's all right. One of Donald Hamilton's westerns, girl is pointing a gun at the hero and he tells her that if she wants to shoot him she needs to cock the gun first.
She looks down at the obviously cocked pistol - WHAT YOU TALKIN' ABOUT, WILLIS? - and while she's distracted he knocks the gun away.
Maybe telling her the safety was on was a distraction.
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There was a scene like that in the recent TV cop show "The Rookie", starring Nathan Fillion. The police captain, who normally spends her time behind a desk, is spending a day in uniform with the regular cops to remind herself of what it's like. She confronts a hostage-holder and while talking to him, mentions that the safety on his gun is on. He looks at it, and while distracted she closes and knocks it from his hand and subdues him.
One of the rookies picks up the perp's gun and says, "This is a Glock - it doesn't have an external safety. You faced down a live gun!" (Or something like that.) The captain knew it, but took the risk to save the hostage.
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I heard Bond say it was a "S&W.45" but I was mostly looking at Honor Blackman. What a beauty!
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Ian Fleming could spin a good yarn but didn’t know diddly about firearms... or bother to check. Usually that’s enough to make me change channels, but I give the Bond books and movies a pass because I like them so much. I have all the novels and reread them once in a while. Better than most of the movies!
Oops! Sorry Rudi, didn’t mean to respond to your post!
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