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No Big 10 Football this fall
Officially announced. The Big 10 will not play this season. I can't believe the other conferences won't follow suit. Very sad. I hate the NFL but like college games. No bands, no cheerleaders, no income to support other college athletics. Wonder if the football players on scholarship will have to pay their own tuition?
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Egads, players may actually have to attend classes or at least sign in online. With this virus I don't know how any reasonable administrator could think that they could operate contact sports of any kind, safely. That goes for College and High Schools.
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08-11-2020, 04:24 PM
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Officially announced. The Big 10 will not play this season. I can't believe the other conferences won't follow suit. Very sad. I hate the NFL but like college games. No bands, no cheerleaders, no income to support other college athletics. Wonder if the football players on scholarship will have to pay their own tuition?
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It’s time to get institutions of higher learning out of the semi pro athletic entertainment business. When that happens, we can see more clearly how dysfunctional they are at educating students for the workplace and to be a useful citizen.
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I’m sure a lot will take the year off, NCAA will give them another year of eligibility to make up for it.
Not like they are missing much in Communications 101.
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Then do the colleges not need a football coach this year?
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Then do the colleges not need a football coach this year?
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Probably not, but I don't think any college could furlough their football coach for the season. In many states, the highest paid state employee is the football coach at the largest state university. I just heard that both Ohio State and Michigan will each lose about $120 Million from the loss of football revenue.
I have to wonder what will happen in the next pro football draft.
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08-11-2020, 04:52 PM
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Pac 12 has followed Big 10. Can others be far behind?
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This is all about liability. The universities can't take the risk of class action suits down the road, It is about family members possibly contracting CV 19 as a result of sports. It is a sad state of affairs that the litigious environment drives more decisions that you can image. It was mentioned that a couple of universities would lose 120MM - that is a known value, the loss and costs of litigation are unknowns and litigation losses could be well beyond that depending on class size. I am a huge Buckeye fan and do not know how I will get through this fall. It is a religion here in Columbus. Well, I guess I will golf a lot later into the fall.
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This is all about liability. The universities can't take the risk of class action suits down the road, It is about family members possibly contracting CV 19 as a result of sports. It is a sad state of affairs that the litigious environment drives more decisions that you can image. It was mentioned that a couple of universities would lose 120MM - that is a known value, the loss and costs of litigation are unknowns and litigation losses could be well beyond that depending on class size. I am a huge Buckeye fan and do not know how I will get through this fall. It is a religion here in Columbus. Well, I guess I will golf a lot later into the fall.
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Being a Buckeye myself, I have always looked forward to every Saturday of the season to wrap myself up in my OSU quilt and drink beer in front of the TV. Guess I'll need to make other plans. BTW, I lived in the Stadium my first two years at OSU. Could see all the games free as I knew how to sneak inside. Only problem was finding an empty seat.
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At a lot of school students resent the way "athletes" are pampered and coddled-scholarships, separate dormitories, etc. while other students struggle with inadequate financial aid, student loans, etc. At many schools the players find out that far from being BMOCs they are shunned by their fellow students, turned down for dates, etc. I suspect at many schools if the students had a chance to vote on eliminating sports programs and devoting that money to scholarships, etc. for real scholars, they would approve it overwhelmingly.
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Pac 12 has followed Big 10. Can others be far behind?
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The Mountain West pulled the plug yesterday.
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At a lot of school students resent the way "athletes" are pampered and coddled-scholarships, separate dormitories, etc. while other students struggle with inadequate financial aid, student loans, etc. At many schools the players find out that far from being BMOCs they are shunned by their fellow students, turned down for dates, etc. I suspect at many schools if the students had a chance to vote on eliminating sports programs and devoting that money to scholarships, etc. for real scholars, they would approve it overwhelmingly.
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Unfortunately that view is not accurate at a lot of universities.
It is the big dollar football and basketball programs that support and pay for the less publicized and appreciated sports along with other campus expenses.
Things like women’s basketball, tennis, volleyball wrestling etc cannot pay for themselves because the do not draw a big enough crowd or get ESPN contracts etc.
Our local university, BSU brings far more $ in than it costs to operate.it supports other sports programs and puts a gawd awful amount of money in the schools coffers.
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And of course the Mid-American Conference bailed out last week. Smaller schools (Kent State, Miami-Ohio, U. of Akron, U of Buffalo, Ohio U., Ball State, etc.), but they also played non-conference games with the Big Boys and made a lot of money from it. And the Southwestern Athletic Conference (mainly southern Black colleges, most notably Grambling) called off their season about a week ago. I think there is no way there will be a fall college season this year. There is talk about having a Spring season, but I just can't see that working very well.
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There just scared of the SEC.
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The Big 12 has brass balls and is going to play. Boomer Sooner
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I’m over it. Gonna be able to hunt more this fall.
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I am extremely mad...
...the B1G wholly failed with this ignorant decision. Even more annoyed at the U of Maryland...my alma mater.
Am a donor and have let my thoughts be known through ‘official’ channels. The university has received a whole lot of money from me and is in my will. It will not receive another dime until this matter is properly resolved.
Some posters cite LIABILITY concerns as important in this decision. That should not have been a factor whatsoever. IMHO, no lawyer(s) should have been involved. But am certain they were...and drove this stupid decision.
Be safe...be well.
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There are up sides to everything. Michigan fans won't have to suffer thru another bludgeoning at the hands of Ohio State this year.
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Officially announced. The Big 10 will not play this season. I can't believe the other conferences won't follow suit. Very sad. I hate the NFL but like college games. No bands, no cheerleaders, no income to support other college athletics. Wonder if the football players on scholarship will have to pay their own tuition?
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Who knows, some of them might actually get educated.
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It will be interesting to see how the schools replace the lost revenue. I'm afraid I know the most obvious solution.
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Lost revenue will be an enormous issue...
...and a terrible price will be paid.
To start, non-revenue sports like volleyball, field hockey, and lacrosse might be gone. (Lax won’t go at UMD, I don’t think, but surely will disappear at some schools.)
M/W soccer is in jeopardy even though at some schools it pays its way.
Folks seem to be overlooking the potential cancellation of M/W basketball that truly does pay its way in most instances. And many D1 hoops schools don’t play football.
Most importantly, academics will suffer as donors won’t pay for scholarships. Academic programs will be cut; some majors will disappear.
Sports revenue pays for more than sports. And schools get some real money from licensed merchandise sales.
Why will a corporation pay big money to advertise, buy suites to entertain guests, and show the corporate flag in the absence of football?
Does anyone think Nike, Adidas, and UA will continue to give MILLIONS in support?
Some colleges might close.
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My "alma mater"-Rutgers-has spent a lot money trying to become a sports power-students who go there now complain it's a sports program with a university attached. And they've spent a lot of time and effort trying to build up their alumni association-with meager results. "My" class's 25th Reunion was attended by all of 60 people out of a class of 1200. So perhaps this will give them time to think about what they really exist for and what their true mission is.
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At least so far, SEC, ACC, and Big 12 say they are playing. I know Stanford has already cut many of their minor sports program, and probably many others are planning how to do so. I read something suggesting that collegiate women's sports programs are unlikely to see many cuts due to Title IX requirements.
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...and a terrible price will be paid.
To start, non-revenue sports like volleyball, field hockey, and lacrosse might be gone. (Lax won’t go at UMD, I don’t think, but surely will disappear at some schools.)
M/W soccer is in jeopardy even though at some schools it pays its way.
Folks seem to be overlooking the potential cancellation of M/W basketball that truly does pay its way in most instances. And many D1 hoops schools don’t play football.
Most importantly, academics will suffer as donors won’t pay for scholarships. Academic programs will be cut; some majors will disappear.
Sports revenue pays for more than sports. And schools get some real money from licensed merchandise sales.
Why will a corporation pay big money to advertise, buy suites to entertain guests, and show the corporate flag in the absence of football?
Does anyone think Nike, Adidas, and UA will continue to give MILLIONS in support?
Some colleges might close.
Be safe...be well.
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Those business have probably been hammered too, and may be unable to continue giving. Private schools may shutdown other sports activities, raise tuition beyond what people are willing to pay, and then shutdown. How many students will be willing to pay full tuition for online classes?
I expect states will raise taxes (a lot) to pay for public schools and unemployment benefits. Some have been eyeing a 'wealth tax' (tax on assets rather than income) for a long time, and may be able to finally pull it off. Get ready for the looting of your nest egg.
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This Fall, fans of college football will have to be content with watching the weekly LSU - Alabama game.
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Big 10?
Don't care. Never been into minor league sports.
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The last football game I went to was this!
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The TV revenue with football is in the billions and if teams played in empty stadiums there would probably be more people watching the games on TV than ever before. I know I would, the only thing I don't like about the college football season is that it's during the same time as hunting season.
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Football will not be missed.
Now NCAA and such HOCKEY will be missed, but not too much as not many games are televised
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I hope universities become a place of learning...
It would be nice for a change.. the only sports I like use gunpowder or gasoline.. goodbye football you won't be missed by me.. I knew too many players in college and their treatment by the colleges has only gotten worse...
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Being originally from the UK, when I came over here 52 years ago I could not believe the"coddling" given to "athletes" at UGa where I was a post-doc. The UGa admin got a major shock when after they failed two extremely talented biochemistry students on their PE scores thus denying them Phi Beta Kappa status, the science faculty rebelled and decreed that from then on, all PE classes were pass/fail for non-athletes and did not count on their GPAs. The sounds of wailing from the admin when they realized that their brand new physical education building would only have a very few students supporting it made the non-athletes very happy. Dave_n
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