"Highwaymen" Gun Shop Scene

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Watched Highwaymen" last night on Netflix for the second time. If you haven't seen it I recommend. The gun shop scene is one one of my favorites. "Do you have it in black instead of nickel, this is too damn shiney".

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My favorite line is this scene is when the shop owner asks if he can ask why he needs all these guns. "You can ask", then silence as he looks at the shop owner..., priceless.

What I really liked about this movie was that it didn't glamorize Bonnie and Clyde. It shows them for what they were. You didn't even see their faces until the end.
 
He wanted four cases of 45, and the same for the 30/06, and something else that I couldn't quite understand. So he wanted at least eight cases of ammunition. And the helper carried one out to the car.


Hmmm
 
That type of well-stocked gun shop was not too likely to find on small town Texas street.

If I recall the scene in Highwaymen, Capt. Hamer inspects a Colt Monitor, a version of the BAR. That ran over $300 pre-NFA, equivalent of nearly $6000 today. Not impossible during the Great Depression, but I don’t think Colt ever even sold any Monitors to private citizens (likely just due to cost).

Even in the pre-National Firearms Act days, the cost of automatic weapons were high, making them bespoke items to order, not usually sitting on shelves. For instance, the Thompsons being used in the Capone-era Chicago area were often traced to the same suburban hardware store. I am certain there are some Colt or Thompson collectors who correct me if I have mis-stated the general situation.

That said, awesome scene. Reminds me of the LA North Hollywood Shootout where the LAPD armed with Ithaca M37s and Model 15s where unable you stop a pair of bank robbers. A few grizzled sergeants headed in the general direction - one commandeering a bank armored car and another stepping into a local gun store to hand out AR-15s like a McDonald’s drive-in window.

And if you have never read it - recommend reading Shot All to Hell: Jesse James, the Northfield Raid, and the Wild West's Greatest Escape. The main event in the book is how some unrepentant racist rebels decide to rob a Yankee bank - and a bunch of Norwegian farmers armed by a hardware store darn near massacre them. The book gets into how they hunted the escapees down.
 
He should have needed some 35 Remington as there was at least one model 8 in that caliber used in the ambush of Bonnie and Clyde.
 
CMP

"Lemme see that Winchester. I need one gun that won't jam." What makes me drool in that scene is all the ammo he buys. These days, I'd settle for one case of 45acp.

CMP online store has .45acp for $393.00 per case (1000 rd) shipping included.
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Just to buy guns without miles of paperwork, permits, background checks, and have it all in stock! I wonder what the Bill was back then.
 
He should have needed some 35 Remington as there was at least one model 8 in that caliber used in the ambush of Bonnie and Clyde.

There is conflicting information about the Model 8 rifles used in the B&C ambush, presumably two of them were there (one of which in .25 Rem may have been owned by Hamer but not used by him). The other Model 8 was allegedly borrowed from a local doctor or dentist, was in .35 Rem, and was used by Deputy Prentiss Oakley. The .35 Rem rifle often cited (incorrectly) as being used by Hamer (it's far more likely he really used a Remington Model 11 shotgun) was actually a Model 81 which post-dated the ambush so it couldn't possibly have been used in it. But there was a BAR there, not a Colt Monitor, used by one of the posse deputies. I think it was on loan from a national guard armory. Most everything known about the posse's guns originated from a single poor quality photograph of the long guns laying on a car roof. There were no Thompson SMGs involved as shown in the original 1967 B&C movie. Hamer was not a Texas Ranger at the time, rather he was an agent for the Texas Prison System Director acting essentially as a hired killer having the sole mission of dispatching B&C with great prejudice. In fact the Texas Rangers had been disbanded a year earlier, during 1933, by Ma Ferguson, the Texas governor. Just prior to that episode, Hamer had been an unpaid Texas Highway Patrolman and rancher as he was no longer a Ranger.
 
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Wouldn't you like to be able to walk into your LGS and shop from a selection like that one? Today that carload would cost you over a hundred grand, and a six month wait before you could pick them up!!

4 cases of .45ACP, 4 cases of .30-06 and 100 rounds each for the other ones...I think that is what he says.
 
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If I recall the scene in Highwaymen, Capt. Hamer inspects a Colt Monitor, a version of the BAR. That ran over $300 pre-NFA, equivalent of nearly $6000 today. Not impossible during the Great Depression, but I don’t think Colt ever even sold any Monitors to private citizens (likely just due to cost).
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The Colt Monitor does appear to have been used by another famous outlaw of the “public enemy” era, Lester Gillis aka “Baby Face” Nelson, in his final battle.

You can read all about it in this excellent essay by Stephen Hunter.

American Rifleman | A Battle At Barrington: The Men & The Guns

This often reprinted photo shows FBI SA John Core at practice in the 1930s:


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He wanted four cases of 45, and the same for the 30/06, and something else that I couldn't quite understand. So he wanted at least eight cases of ammunition. And the helper carried one out to the car.


Hmmm

He got “4 cases of .45 lead, same for the the 30/06, and say an even 100
for each of the others.”
 
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