What is the definition of an assult rifle that the government wants to once again ban? I'm confused.

What is the definition of an assult rifle that the government wants to once again ban? I'm confused.

Things like flash guards, handle grips and over 10 round magazines. Take all those evil things off the gun and it is no longer and assault rifle and therefore ownable and saleable.

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Dick

The problem with the libs definition of "assault weapon" is that it was conceived to define a category of guns that is now extended to mean a whole LOT more than the original definition. Originally, it was defined as a semiautomatic firearm with a detachable magazine holding more than ten rounds of ammunition. Then it was modified to include such "military" features as pistol grips, folding stocks, bayonet lugs, flash hiders, ad nauseum. Pistol magazines were restricted to 10 rounds. As to what can be expected in this latest AWB, don't be surprised to find that it includes a whole lot of formerly sporting firearms.

A true assault rifle is fully automatic. The rest is just cosmetic banner-speak BS.

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Certified AR-15 / SIG Armorer.

"...That the government wants to ban"? ALL of them.

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NRA Endowment Member

They don't want to ban assault rifles. Assault rifles have full auto and or burst capability. NONE of the firearms which Obama et al want to ban his capable of firing in a fully automatic or burst mode.

They want to ban "assault weapons", which are whatever they say they are on any given day.

Don't forget the evil barrel shroud, you know.. "the things that go up"

The '94 ban listed several features:
Folding/collapsable stocks
Bayonet lugs
Pistol grips
Detachable magazines
Magazines over 10 round capacity.
Cosmetic stuff mainly.

Basically any military clone was considered too scary for them.

The next ban will be more detailed. Bet on it.

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N frameitis :-)

One that goes "bang" when the trigger is depressed.

RE:...anything that you have, your friend/neighbor/relative may have, or that you think about, want to get, have ever seen, hear about, saw a picture or....

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Dum vivimus Vivamas

The definition IS indeed the problem. Many of the gun ban do not want any "automatic" weapons to be legal. That would of course include autoloaders...by definition...which is a weapon that can fire with successive trigger pulls. Now you've included over & under shotguns, too, again by definition.
You can see where this goes, and they do not care about suitablity for sports or targets or hunting. They hate them all and will outlaw them all if given a chance.
Detachable magazines, "heat guards", adjustable stocks, all are fair game, and may be found in many variations on hunting arms and on sporting clays shotguns and on a darn 22 rimfire.
Remember what Diane Feinstein said.." If I had my way, I'd ban them all..turn them in Mr and Mrs America"

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NRA Life Member in Big Wonderful Wyoming

If you are really serious about why or what, here is a post I did on a board of *mostly* liberal nurses to explain the whole AWB thing.

http://www.thenurseslounge.net...p?showtopic=6234&hl=

bob

Text of H.R. 6257 [110th]: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008


(b) DEFINITION OF SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPON- Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding after paragraph (29) the following:

‘(30) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means--

‘(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as--

‘(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies ****mat Kalashnikovs (all models);

‘(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;

‘(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);

‘(iv) Colt AR-15;

‘(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;

‘(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;

‘(vii) Steyr AUG;

‘(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and

‘(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;

‘(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--

‘(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

‘(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

‘(iii) a bayonet mount;

‘(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and

‘(v) a grenade launcher;

‘(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--

‘(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

‘(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;

‘(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;

‘(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and

‘(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and

‘(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--

‘(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

‘(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

‘(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and

‘(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.’.

http://www.govtrack.us/congres...t.xpd?bill=h110-6257

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RIP Shipmate

http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/

Find here what California "defines" (lists)as "assault weapons" --- absurdity exemplified, as only Californians can do it... (Not bashing our CA members, rather sympathizing...)

...THIS one is okay though...





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A Country Boy Can Survive

It is all total baloney.

They want to clasify all semi-autos as assualt weapons. This includes pistols, and shotties as well.

Of course, the next round of bans will be for "sniper weapons" and that will be anything with optics.

Yes, indeed!

Do You Even Know What a Barrel Shroud Is?

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You're shy a few manners.

The IZH 35M .22RF target pistol has a "Barrel Shroud" that covers up the barrel and to which the sights are attached. Of course, since it is Russian built, it is probably an Evil gun anyway.

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SWCA1967 SWHF244

It is my understanding that a certain California Senator and her staff picked firearms from a catalog which they thought looked dangerous and should be banned. The regulations were an attempt to codify these selections. Since the selections made no sense, the regulations don’t either. Not surprising because IMO the Senators from California show very little sense, Boxer absolutely none.
It is a case of “I can’t describe it but I know it when I see it.”

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Ipsis Rebus Dictantitbus

Shoots bullets.

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No life story has happy end.

You got that right!

Any gun that can launch a bullet scares those people who are afraid of anything that shoots a bullet!

They know that can't ban 'em all in one step . . . so they are back, year after year . . . trying to erode things a step at a time.

<span class="ev_code_RED">It would be easier to just list the guns that are legal!</span>

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RIP Shipmate

Hitler actualy coined the term "Assault Rifle" (Sturmgewehr) to describe the new at the time MKb42/MP43 German medium-range automatic rifle. This rifle was capable of laying a sustained blanket of fire to keep the defenders' heads down during the assault. It was more powerful than the submachine gun (used for this purpose by the russians) and more man-portable than the light machine gun. By definition it must be capable of automatic fire.

The true definition is of no consequence to the people who want to ban them. As is their tactic, they must have something to demonize whether it be an object or an opposition politician. When only a moron would support these politicians if the politicians views were actually expressed, they simply attack/demonize the opposition to distract people from these politicians views/plans.

...and you can't explain to them that two identical bullets...traveling at the same speed...one from a banned gun...and one from an un-banned gun...don't know or care what the gun that fired them looks like...



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A Country Boy Can Survive

The government isactually referring to the line in the Nazi Germany original Gun Control Act, (now in Our 1968 GCA) about "Sporting Weapon" there is nothing in our Constitution referring to the ownership of a sporting weapon.

"RGAmos" is correct. The military defination of a 'assualt rifle' is.

A selectable fire, (i.e. semi/full auto) medium power, shoulder fired, individual weapon.

What 'anti-gunners' call a 'assualt weapon'? Anything that looks 'scary'.

Ask the Australians on the board where the Remington 870s went.

I expect an attempt at registration of "assault weapons" and handguns before an outright ban. They need to know what we have before they ban it or some "misguided" folks might try to squirrel some of the horrible things away.

There is no tracking in most states after the firearm leaves the gun shop. Until they have knowledge of who has what, a ban will not be effective.

True that. Its a conjured definition. The military doesn't identify any weapon as an Assault Rifle any more than they have an Attack Rifle. The Attack Position is the last concealed (hopefully with cover) position before the Line of Departure-then you hit the Assault Position--the last concealed position before the objective--then onto the objective. Soooo, your muzzle loader becomes the assault weapon as you move onto the enemy position. Bayonets are "fixed" at the Attack Position.

Actually --- the real definition that the government WANTS TO USE is --- IF it MAKES A BANG WHEN THE TRIGGER IS PULLED ITS AN ASSULT WEAPON.

Young Dan firing the 1859 Sharps Cavalry Carbine. .54 caliber, breach loading with paper cartridge and musket cap. It was a state of the art assault rifle back in the day!

HOPE HE GOT A YANKEE!!

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WAR EAGLE!