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Here's a one-on-one that's fun to watch. Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana vs. a cross county skier who doesn't even know what carbon dioxide is.

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Here's a one-on-one that's fun to watch. Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana vs. a cross county skier who doesn't even know what carbon dioxide is.

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Ice cores going back millions of years prove the earth gets warm and cool in roughly 60,000 year cycles. In fact 7 or 8 digits of years back CO2 levels were 18X now. Since "recorded" history (stuff written down by observers of variable reliability) doesn't go that far back, none of that can be "fact." SuperGlue my ***. Joe
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Whenever I dealt with the German Polizei, they stuck an MP5 in my belly. I had long hair then. And their dog would look at me like a milk bone. Gotta love cops.
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Yeah, all them scientists...they don't know nothin'...
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The old saying "follow the science."

The new saying "follow the money."
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Yes, he ranks up there with Greta.
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He’s not as nails-on-chalkboard as Greta, he seems to be aware that he’s a low-information person in over his head.
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One of my favorite pols, he sure has a way with words.
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After the first Saddam war my army son spent 2 years in Germany. He said it was not smart to resist or bad mouth them!
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The climate crazies are among the most difficult bunch to attempt a logical, factual and meaningful conversation.
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Those who complain about how aggressive US cops are need to spend some time overseas-away from tourist places where the cops have been to charm school.
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I still have a dog sled and Eskimo clothes covered with spider webs in my back shed I bought in the 1970s when these same geniuses said we would be experiencing an ice age right now.
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Those who complain about how aggressive US cops are need to spend some time overseas-away from tourist places where the cops have been to charm school.
In the early 1990s in Tokyo, I was approaching my office building in the morning, right across the street from one of the city's leading hotels. Cops were blocking pedestrian traffic in front of the hotel. I soon learned that the reason was because one of the Beatles, I forget which one, was entering or leaving the hotel.

But what sticks in my mind was one Japanese businessman berating a young cop blocking us, essentially complaining that he needed to get to work. I thought, "Wow, nobody in his right mind would act like that with a cop in the U.S."

Another time I saw a couple of juvenile delinquents harassing a burly, lone cop in front of a police box, pausing to see if he needed help. The delinquents left when the cop cuffed — took an open handed swipe at — one casually. Again I thought, "You'd be out of your mind to do that with a US cop!"

I think with Japanese cops their high level of patience has to do with the largely non-violent nature of their society.
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I saw Kennedy politely reveal the kid as a useful idiot.

It is like we have all been taught - extremism in any arena may not be good. All things in moderation is a good rule to live by.

I am not opposed to cleaner air or working toward a renewable energy source, but taking an alarmist approach makes no sense. A well thought out executable affordable transition would serve us well.

Unfortunately, Greta and this guy need an emergency so they can climb up the cross and nail themselves to it every time there is a camera in the vicinity.

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I was stationed there for nearly 2 years while the Olympic games were going on and the Baader Meinhoph gang was blowing stuff up. German cops do not fool around period. I driving a 5 Ton tractor trailer rig in convoy, second in line. We came up on a turn off that had signs verifying the fact that we would be overweight for that road. Lead jeep turn off as did the rest of us, we were driving for a few minutes when we came up on a road check. Officer with a large flashlight that read Halt stopped us. A number of cops walked up to our vehicles, checking data plates, etc. The Lt. in the jeep was answering questions, everone was polite. One cop walked up to the tractor in front of me and was talking to the driver, motioned him to get out. The guy got out and started getting angry and waving his arms around, the cop had his hand on the butt of his P-38 and in one fluid motion drew it and cold cocked the guy as he was advancing on the cop. They hauled that guy off, slapped a fine on us for being overweight and yet allowed us to continue to the site we were assigned. The next day or so the guy returned with a bandage on his head, said he was treated decent and told to never advance on a German cop, they do not back up.
In the town I was in there was usually a beat cop downtown, he reminded me of Sgt. Schultz in the winter, in his heavy coat and their peaked cap. I used to watch drug deals going on outside the clubs, he never paid any attention to them. Their overall attitude about street drugs and rowdy youth was "kids will be kids." They go after the big dealers and leave the street scene alone.
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While I have some sympathy with this view, there are many times that science has found the final, definitive answer to a problem. That some may strongly object to that answer is an issue they should take up with their analyst, because throwing money at an answer you don't like isn't science.
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I have never had a session with a noodle farmer (analyst).

If I ever do I am sure it will involve a sack lunch and a sleepover.
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I saw a video a couple of days ago showing Greta being dragged out of a street and hauled away . It's sad that the kid really thinks she is accomplishing something .
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What you say is true..........until the science becomes obligated to politicians who control the funding. Then one needs to question if the science is correct or is it simply a tool to advance an agenda. That's where it gets tricky ......... too many times (today) opposing scientific views are monetarily stifled because they don't match the political narrative. I just wish the politicians would let the scientists do their work without political biases getting involved. We would all be a lot better off if that were the case.

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While I believe that the Earth is warming, we have not yet reached the temperatures that allowed people to grow crops on Greenland as they did until the 1400's. Cooling started earlier and may have peaked in the early 1600's according to European records. Nothing in Nature is static.
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Yeah, all them scientists...they don't know nothin'...
More like "all them scientists... they don't know nearly as much as they PRETEND they know".

Because at this point it's all settled science - right?!?!

WE humans already know EVERYTHING, so no need for any additional scientific inquiry - or questioning of scientific theories. We all need to accept the scientific consensus, no matter how many differing opinions or theories exist.

Right?!?

"Settled science" is the exact opposite of REAL science. Just a few centuries ago, a flat earth was "settled science", and Galileo was forced to renounce the idea of a heliocentric cosmos...

Yeah, them scientists, in their arrogance, they already KNOW it ALL....

We ignorant plebes all need to just accept Greta's expertise, and get in line with her agenda.
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I have written on climate activists and my loathing and revulsion of them before here. I am not going to rehash that here tonight.

All I will say to them is this; "If you don't like "climate change" then just wait for the current international situtation to deteriorate to the point some ignorant is going to start launching nukes....you'll absolutely LOVE the climate change that is going to happen then!"

Most climate activists are hypocrites of the highest magnitude and I tend to ignore their temper tantrums.

As for Greta, "How dare you!"
Go say that to Putin, little girl....then go away.
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I assume that at least some here are aware of the government plan to establish a 20,000 strong American Climate Gestapo, er, Corps. And to reach undecided voters to make sure they know who to vote for in order to save the planet. This is absolutely in the works. https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2...ps-next-month/

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I think we have a warming climate. I don't think all the causes have been seen or proven yet. Did we as humans start the warming...no of course not... been happening for the last 12,000 years. Have humans enhanced and made the warming worse?? The facts aren't in yet and nothing has truly been Proven on that question. The really BIG question though... Can we stop the warming?? I sincerely doubt it. So actually Beemerguy...contrary to your beliefs nothing has really been proved or disproved yet...and our government is driving the economy to a position we can not recover from. Right now and for the foreseeable future we don't have ability to generate or even worse DELIVER the electricity that we will need to fo all electric...much less have the means to produce what we find necessary for current political policies to work.... No we still don't know how much effect humankind has on our climate. And yeah...it still comes out with the government funding scientists studies It really does come down to ...FOLLOW The Money...And again...an 18-20 year old girl surely does not have a clue on how to fix climate change

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I am so damned sick & tired of hearing these "climate activists" spew their manure! Most of them have been proven to be worse offenders than the people they are protesting against. Many have been caught red handed as being hypocrites and only doing this to line their pockets with our cash.

Just watch a climate activists face when you smack them down with the hard facts!
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That happened here today....except the mowing part, LOL
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During my law enforcement career I worked a lot of protests about widely differing issues.

The one common thread was the protestors. Regardless of the issue, we got the same protestors. That was how we got to be able to recognize them. Our CA central coast location (which had long been home to a sizeable hippie population) was sufficiently proximate to UC Santa Cruz, San Francisco, and Berkeley to make the trips practical, especially considering there was always some noble cause, whatever it was this month, to be pursued. That same practicality made these events popular with the Bay Area media, which of course appealed to the protestors. What would be the point to a protest if no one cared enough to record it?

The protests would start out pretty low key. What spooled them up was the arrival of the media, because then there would be, hopefully, something to be recorded and sensationalized.

There was no independence of thought involved. Just mindless group think.

It did not take any brainpower to exercise one's First Amendment rights.

That has not changed.

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Seems to me...anything the media gets truly involved in IS sensationalized. And any agenda the government wants to promote they get the media to do their bidding. It usually affects the taxpayers the most ya know!
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During my law enforcement career I worked a lot of protests about widely differing issues.

The one common thread was the protestors. Regardless of the issue, we got the same protestors. That was how we got to be able to recognize them. Our CA central coast location (which had long been home to a sizeable hippie population) was sufficiently proximate to UC Santa Cruz, San Francisco, and Berkeley to make the trips practical, especially considering there was always some noble cause, whatever it was this month, to be pursued. That same practicality made these events popular with the Bay Area media, which of course appealed to the protestors. What would be the point to a protest if no one cared enough to record it?

The protests would start out pretty low key. What spooled them up was the arrival of the media, because then there would be, hopefully, something to be recorded and sensationalized.

There was no independence of thought involved. Just mindless group think.

It did not take any brainpower to exercise one's First Amendment rights.

That has not changed.
We called them "Rent-a-mob" in the UK.
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While I have some sympathy with this view, there are many times that science has found the final, definitive answer to a problem. That some may strongly object to that answer is an issue they should take up with their analyst, because throwing money at an answer you don't like isn't science.
When? ever? Even quantum mechanics, arguably the most successful theory EVER, isn't definitive nor final.
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During my law enforcement career I worked a lot of protests about widely differing issues.

The one common thread was the protestors. Regardless of the issue, we got the same protestors. That was how we got to be able to recognize them. Our CA central coast location (which had long been home to a sizeable hippie population) was sufficiently proximate to UC Santa Cruz, San Francisco, and Berkeley to make the trips practical, especially considering there was always some noble cause, whatever it was this month, to be pursued. That same practicality made these events popular with the Bay Area media, which of course appealed to the protestors. What would be the point to a protest if no one cared enough to record it?

The protests would start out pretty low key. What spooled them up was the arrival of the media, because then there would be, hopefully, something to be recorded and sensationalized.

There was no independence of thought involved. Just mindless group think.

It did not take any brainpower to exercise one's First Amendment rights.

That has not changed.
There's money in being a "professional protestor"
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Amazing that when the left likes/approves of something those pushing it are "activists." When they don't like/approve of it they are "extremists."

Dr. Goebbles would be proud.
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While I believe that the Earth is warming, we have not yet reached the temperatures that allowed people to grow crops on Greenland as they did until the 1400's. Cooling started earlier and may have peaked in the early 1600's according to European records. Nothing in Nature is static.
There must be global warming. You don't see any woolly mammoths running around, do you?
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There must be global warming. You don't see any woolly mammoths running around, do you?
We had a bad infestation of them. They were tearing up the yard something awful. All it took was one Sabertooth Tiger to take care of them.
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There must be global warming. You don't see any woolly mammoths running around, do you?
Funny you mention that, on the national news tonight they did a story about geneticist's who are very close to cloning a wooly mammoth. Their DNA is a 99% match to Indian elephants.

So, if you wake up and there is a giant pile in your yard you know you have a Mammoth infestation problem......
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Watched a bit on the Sunday Morning show. A woman was explaining the "loss of shoreline on the east coast, narrowing in on Charleston, SC. She pointed out that it wasn't the rising ocean causing the problem, it was the sinking of the land--caused by extensive pumping of ground water for the increasing population. The more water pumped, the more the land sinks. Maybe we need to get rid of people.
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Yeah, all them scientists...they don't know nothin'...
A really good recent example of the folly of that attitude is the Big Bang Theory as THE ONE theory of the creation of the universe. For years it was the "written in stone", "settled science" view of the universe. "We can measure it.", "It's the only possible theory based on our understanding of physics.", is what the scientists, all the scientists, said. So much so that if you were an astrophysicist and put forth anything that was the least bit contrary, you were shunned by the community. You couldn't even get published, never mind getting considered for study grants. It was professional suicide to suggest that The Big Bang was not 100% correct. Then we launch the James Webb Deep Space Telescope. We can see deeper into the universe than humans ever could in places we could never see. Suddenly they are seeing things moving in ways that are quickly making The Big Bang obsolete. The point is that real science is never written in stone, more like sand at the beach and sciences' real essence is change. It's also important to remember that just because the people putting fourth these theories may know more than you, that doesn't automatically make them right. Even if that theory goes along with your view of the world.
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So, if you wake up and there is a giant pile in your yard you know you have a Mammoth infestation problem......
What would be the best gun for a Wooly Mammoth?
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