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Some Old Military Papers
I was going through some of my old military records and found these tests papers from SP school. The revolver would have been an SW model 15.
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Classified material! You're busted!!!
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What's SP school?
I take it you didn't have to spend a lot of time studying!
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04-20-2024, 08:53 AM
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I "humped the pig" in Korea. It was a pain carrying its extra weight around, but comforting to know that I could reach out and touch someone at longer distances than those carrying M16's.
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04-20-2024, 10:01 AM
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What's SP school?
I take it you didn't have to spend a lot of time studying!
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Air Force Security Police. And yes it wasn’t exactly a tough quiz.
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I still have two copies of Air Force Manual 125-3, Security Police Handbook, from 1971.
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For some reason I kept every pay stub and order from my time in the Army from day one until discharge. (1960-63) I have no idea why, but they are still in a drawer.
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04-20-2024, 01:04 PM
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I "humped the pig" in Korea. It was a pain carrying its extra weight around, but comforting to know that I could reach out and touch someone at longer distances than those carrying M16's.
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Was the M16 in Korea?
I have some military papers still around but my favorite is a hand written note (in pencil) from my SSG when I was getting out.
He and I butted heads on a regular basis so it is unfit for print here. But, I kept it all these years because it means something to me despite me never learning from it as I should have
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For some reason I kept every pay stub and order from my time in the Army from day one until discharge. (1960-63) I have no idea why, but they are still in a drawer.
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I have every LES I got over 32 years.
On that old (1977) manual...pretty cool. All the way from a model 15 to the Pig. I noticed the (Pre) 15 has sharp shoulder diamond magnas. I guess they didn't have a diagram of a newer 15.
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Also if you look closely that M-16 is a slick side, no forward assist. My issued GAU-5 (Gun Aircraft Unit - Air Force speak for the M4) was also a slick side. It was kind of an Air Force thing back in the day. Sample photo attached.
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Also if you look closely that M-16 is a slick side, no forward assist. My issued GAU-5 (Gun Aircraft Unit - Air Force speak for the M4) was also a slick side. It was kind of an Air Force thing back in the day. Sample photo attached.
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I was curious about that. The M16A1 with forward assist came out around 1969. Was the USAF that far behind in 1977?
I guess they didn't use them very much. Why bother, when you can call in an air strike!
I'm also surprised the quiz didn't have students identify the trigger. It seems more important than a sling!
My oldest brother served two terms in Vietnam and retired as a full bird Colonel. I'm pretty sure he had a test on golf course etiquette!
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I believe the Air Force was the first branch to fully adopt the new rifle and format so they had the largest stock of early rifles.
Good point on the trigger.
Now the golf course at Osan served some very valuable purposes. Our Pararescue (PJ’s) boys used it as a landing zone for their airborne training.
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lol... I could have passed when I was maybe 12? 10?
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Was the M16 in Korea?
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1983-84. Certainly.
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Also if you look closely that M-16 is a slick side, no forward assist. My issued GAU-5 (Gun Aircraft Unit - Air Force speak for the M4) was also a slick side. It was kind of an Air Force thing back in the day. Sample photo attached.
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That looks like an XM-177. AKA Car 15. Very desirable weapon in RVN, if you could find one.
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That looks like an XM-177. AKA Car 15. Very desirable weapon in RVN, if you could find one.
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Yup. Same same GI just in USAF speak.
I was K-9 so it was my issued rifle.
CAR-15 - Wikipedia
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I "humped the pig" in Korea. It was a pain carrying its extra weight around, but comforting to know that I could reach out and touch someone at longer distances than those carrying M16's.
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Ah. Ironically I had never heard the M60 called the pig and had to look that up after your response.
I was stationed in Korea shortly after you but was in a mortar unit attached to a mechanized infantry battalion. We had the .50 cal mounted on our tracks but never messed with the M60. We did carry the M16 as well as 1911's.
Thanks for the clarification I was thinking more along the lines of the 1950 to 1953 era with my question.
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I saw these on an Air Force vets site. Dated July 1969, before my time but in the same lane as my earlier post. Funny how simplistic they made things even for the "smart" branch.
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