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Threads like this cause me to conjure up an image of the mods with push brooms clearing off the cutting room floor.
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The absolute ignorance and smugness of these people is astounding.
It is a shame how far our country has fallen. Politics aside, this is a national disgrace.
These people should just get a good old fashioned can of whup *** and be sent on their way, by John Q. Citizen(s).
You want to support this type of garbage? Go do it over there.
I'm proud to not be some "college edu-ma-cated" twit of today.
God help our country through these times.
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When people who are "protesting" break into locked buildings destroy property and block roads bridges etc Disallow others rights and to be honest create a nuisance...they are no longer protesting. They are breaking the law...If you have a neighbor who is let's say having a loud party at night...you can call the police and they can instruct the people about the wrongs they are doing to others and hopefully getting it stopped. That is just common courtesy...not breaking the law as these people are doing...why can they not be arrested for violating others' rights and destroying property?
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I find it interesting that some of the people who believe in restarting the draft are the same people who were anti mandate.
The draft is the ultimate mandate. Put your life on hold, put on this uniform, obey these orders, up to and including giving your life following them.
I am not against requiring service to the country, in fact I support it, but believe it should include EVERYONE. Last time college students, women, the rich claiming such things as "bone spurs" while golfing, bowling and playing tennis were differed . All of THAT WRONG. Why should someone going to college get a pass and some roughneck drilling for oil or working in a steel mill not? What is equal about drafting men and not women? Why were the rich more able to avoid service than the poor?
Either everyone or no one.
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Since you brought up Kent State...
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I see shades of Kent State. I haven't heard any mention of firearms but all it would take is one loose wing nut. At least Kent State knew what they were protesting. I doubt many of the current bunch could locate Palestine or Israel on a map.
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I did not attend Kent State in 1970...I attended Ohio Northern University College of Pharmacy...I did NOT attend any protests, because I was attending college to get a degree in Pharmacy...My parents helped pay my way and I know my Father and Mother would have been very disappointed in me if I was protesting anything...I was there to get an education plain and simple...As tragic as Kent State was, it is an UNDENIABLE fact that had those students NOT been protesting they would more than likely be alive today...Roger
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I think what they did to the statue of George Washington says it all.
Chicago this summer should be interesting.
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The pro-Palestine organizations are already suing to be allowed to picket directly outside the United Center while the DNC meets. The city wants to prevent them from blocking traffic - the tyrants.
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All I know is that my daughter is set to graduate from Washington University in St. Louis during Mother’s Day Weekend. So far, WashU has admirably repelled the protests. (Google for details).
What many are missing is that the college class of 2024 has been cursed since birth. I was home on paternity leave watching the planes crash into the WTC three weeks after her birth, and got called back early to work the next day. Her senior high school year was 2020, and we all know how that worked out. Now we got this.
If the graduation gets screwed up, I will be unable to restrain Ms Muggins from laying waste to the WashU campus. Fair warning . . .
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I think that's a wonderful fit. Iran could use the infusion of culture a few thousand liberal arts majors would bring. And the kids would get a lesson in what REAL oppression means.
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Why are no Arab countries willing to take Palestinian refugees, one may ask. Linked is very good article on why and how the Palestinians are their own worse enemy.
Just a moment...
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Nothing controversial about allowing poor refugees into one's wealthy country.
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They tried protesting at the U of S. FL. LE announced they were all under arrest, tear-gassed them, and hauled many off to jail. I'd buy every last LEO there a drink.
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Back in my day the Vietnam war protests were largely lead by a single professor whose other goals were to legalize pot and LSD. He lead "College F". The one course that stood out was called "Revolutionary Dance", and it had no classroom instruction. To pass you had to stand in front of a US Military recruitment office with an "End the War Sign". I couldn't care less personally because it was very mild and there were no riots. What DID bother me was that they got 3 credit hours while I had to study and pass exams.
Right now it is being reported that many of the current participants are NOT from the Universities. My opinion is that these people are most likely foreign terrorists trying to destroy us from within.
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Love the video of the young terrorist running into the popo with a garbage can shield, then getting planted on his ***.
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I find it interesting that some of the people who believe in restarting the draft are the same people who were anti mandate.
The draft is the ultimate mandate. Put your life on hold, put on this uniform, obey these orders, up to and including giving your life following them.
I am not against requiring service to the country, in fact I support it, but believe it should include EVERYONE. Last time college students, women, the rich claiming such things as "bone spurs" while golfing, bowling and playing tennis were differed . All of THAT WRONG. Why should someone going to college get a pass and some roughneck drilling for oil or working in a steel mill not? What is equal about drafting men and not women? Why were the rich more able to avoid service than the poor?
Either everyone or no one.
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Much merit in what you say. If everybody's kid were subject to the draft, I think we'd be much more reluctant to get into wars...
Initially the volunteer army sounds good. But then it turns out that only something like 2% (less?) of the families in the country have someone serving while the rest of the country just forgets about it.
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I graduated high school in 1970, receiving a IIS (AKA student) deferment as I was going to college. By the next year, however, the lottery draft system had begun because the country had come to the realization that exempting college kids wasn't fair. As I recall, my birthdate came in 143, but my local draft board through some sort of mixup thought it was 243...
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I graduated high school in 1970, receiving a IIS (AKA student) deferment as I was going to college. By the next year, however, the lottery draft system had begun because the country had come to the realization that exempting college kids wasn't fair. As I recall, my birthdate came in 143, but my local draft board through some sort of mixup thought it was 243...
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I was in ROTC and prepared to go if I had to. The lottery came up just before I had to officially sign on the dotted line and was then owned by the government. I had a high number so I dropped ROTC and my student deferment an went 1A. I made it through.
My best friend was #2 and immediately joined the National Guard. Unfortunately, he was called to basic training before graduation and thus had to repeat his senior year. As luck would have it, his unit was never called up.
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Much merit in what you say. If everybody's kid were subject to the draft, I think we'd be much more reluctant to get into wars...
Initially the volunteer army sounds good. But then it turns out that only something like 2% (less?) of the families in the country have someone serving while the rest of the country just forgets about it.
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I graduated high school in 1970, receiving a IIS (AKA student) deferment as I was going to college. By the next year, however, the lottery draft system had begun because the country had come to the realization that exempting college kids wasn't fair. As I recall, my birthdate came in 143, but my local draft board through some sort of mixup thought it was 243...
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I got my draft notice in 1971. Unfortunately for the army, I was attending USAF tech school at the time. Sucked for them.
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Type into your computer/smart phone, Boca Bash.
Glad that there's lotsa video to catch the arrogant idiots.
A Keelhaul would be a great way to start their re-education.
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I'm simple minded. My limited intellect precludes me from understanding why anyone would paraglide across a border and slaughter men, women and babies.
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From Gaza, across a border wall far stronger than anything we have ever proposed for the US.
The attack on October 7 is unprecedented from Hamas both in scale and sophistication, displaying characteristics of a special forces operation that employed small units with bespoke training, equipment, and tactics to achieve outsized strategic results. On that day, over 1,000 Hamas fighters entered southern Israel through nearly 30 breach points in the country’s border wall with Gaza. The 40-mile-long barrier, which cost over $1 billion and was upgraded in 2021, was designed to prevent infiltration with a variety of surveillance and defense technologies. These include cameras, radars, and other sensors, as well as barbed wire and an underground concrete barrier to prevent tunneling. In addition to the 20-foot-tall fence, observation towers with remote machine gun turrets were positioned, in some areas, every 500 feet along the border.
To overcome these defenses, Hamas employed a combination of innovative tactics. Using commercial quadcopter drones, Hamas dropped explosives onto the observation towers, disrupting Israel’s sensors, communications, and weapons systems—a creative use of drones, which are also being used in new ways by Russian and Ukrainian forces. Hamas fighters also blew holes in the border fence with explosives and then used bulldozers to widen the gaps to allow vehicles to pass through. Hamas’s October 7 Attack: Visualizing the Data
Footage from Drone Attacks on Israeli Border Fence on October 7, 2023
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I'm an old guy that served my country during the Korea so called war. No, I didn't go over seas. I remember the oath I took so many years back. I swore to defend my country from enemies both foreign and domestic. I still obey that pledge. My M-1 Garand still is ready also.
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I admit some degree of bias; I have been referred to as "Jewish by association" by Jews of my acquaintance. I get up in a town that had a lot of concentration camp survivors; some were relatives of friends. My first wife was Jewish. One my closest friends since HS is; although not real observant, at 60+ she has never had real bacon. Yiddish slang was semi-common.
If one looks at the history of the region, the claims of the Palestinians are weak. Regardless, Hamas pulled the 10/7 attack, and now has their combat personnel and infrastructure so heavily intermingled with the civilian population (a war crime) that collateral damage to the innocent residents is really hard to avoid. As for the claims of "genocide" the apologists have it backwards. There are plenty in the ME who advocate for killing all the Jews, a position not reciprocated. If the IDF wanted to, all of Gaza would have been a parking lot by the end of October.
A lot of the protestors would not last a day in Gaza because of their personal attributes, but they don't consider that. I dare not comment further and hope this does not get me a ding. At least I refrained from some of my true commentary, as the entire set of mods would have cardiac problems.
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Some frat boys at UNC raised the AMERICAN flag after it was initially taken down and replaced with the terrorist flag, AMERICAN flag raised again by the university,then taken down again and replaced by the terrorist flag. Raised again by the frat boys.
What started out as a Gofundme to give the frat boys a party has grown to over $500,000.
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Organizer of viral fundraiser for UNC frat 'rager' creating board to plan party, give to charities
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Protesting students should be expelled.
Foreign students should be deported.
Non-student protesters should be jailed.
What's so hard about that?
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Let's remember, the majority of college
students did not join in the protests.
Their lives were much more upended
than any of ours watching TVs.
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Protesting students should be expelled.
Foreign students should be deported.
Non-student protesters should be jailed.
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The implementing! The people that could do this are way too afraid about bad publicity.
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SFAIK, "Palestine" hasn't officially been on a map since about 1947. However, let's move on.
I'm not gonna comment further upon the ME, other than to say that those labeled "Palestinians" have been cynically used as pawns by their various sponsors since 1947. IIRC, Jordan offered paths to citizenship. However, once they realized the "guests" were plotting a revolution, they kicked them out. (Spawned the Black September terrorist movement in retaliation.)
If someone can actually link payments to the various "protestors", one would think that a functioning DOJ could find something in the Federal Statutes that would apply. IIRC, traveling across state lines with intent to riot/destroy property is a federal crime.
Since Kent State has been mentioned.....while the deaths may be tragic, the fact was that the NG was on campus was due to wanton destruction of property including burning a building (ROTC?) and attacks on persons. Can we say RIOTING? That seems to be lost to history.
I lived and/or worked through the Vietnam protests, the MLK assassination riots and others*. Peaceful demonstration OK, even if misguided, but once it gets to taking over buildings, refuse to disperse, etc. that deserves jail time. Or, maybe some chain gang work parties. I recall an incident at one college I attended where the ruckus ended when the Dean told the participants that the school started with 13 students and they were prepared to go back to that number.
It wouldn't fly politically, but I think there's some merit in the concept of Universal Service. You get to meet people you otherwise never would and learn to work with them. Maybe broaden one's mental horizons?
*Just remembered an incident in NYC that made network news. A group of demonstrators clashed with some construction workers. I don't recall the exact circumstances, but a bloody demonstrator was being interviewed and he seemed to have trouble connecting his conduct with the result. "They were just WORDS, man!" I believe the current term is a "teachable moment".
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My dear departed father taught me at an early age that most all bullies are cowards. And bullying is the tactic these "protesters" are using. I say, if they're so 'proud' of their beliefs and positions why would they want to hide their faces ? Cowards . . . hiding behind masks and deceitful explanations.
Old man also said, "you may get your *** whipped a time or two but once a bully learns you can hurt him and will fight back . . . 99% of the time the next time they'll leave you alone and go in search of a victim that won't fight back". I've found this to be true.
The cunning and cowardly constantly look for ways to subvert and twist the rule of law for purposes and results that the framers/writers of the law never intended in my observations.
John Adams said, “ Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Just so.
There are places where this can be discussed and expounded upon. . . just not here. The Oxford dictionary defines truth as "that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality." It seems that in an urge to be inclusive and non-offensive we, as a nation, have allowed relativism to subvert that common sense wisdom.
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"...More than a quarter of protesters arrested Tuesday at Columbia University and 60 percent of those arrested at the City College of New York had no connections to the institutions, according to data from the New York Police Department.
Police arrested 282 protesters at the two New York schools on Tuesday. Of the 112 arrested at Columbia, 32 were not affiliated with the school, according to police. At CCNY, police said 102 of the 170 arrested there were not affiliated with that school..."
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As my late father used to say: The root of the problem is people just don't have enough to do.
If they did, other things would be their priority.
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When your worried about where your next meal is coming from or if you have enough wood to stay warm, you don't get too concerned about whats going on 6,000 miles away.
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Only 56 arrests? Color me baffled.
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Bless their hearts.
I’m glad, for the most part, their towels and masks were ripped off for the whole world to see these terrorists.
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"Useful idiots" is such an appropriate phrase. Most of these dolts don't have a clue as to the reality of what happened on October 7th. They are only allowed to regurgitate what they are told in the classroom by their so called "professors". They have been coddled by their mommies. Brainwashed by their teachers. Told there are no consequences for being arrested or for breaking laws. And best yet, told they don't have to repay gubment student loans that they have signed a personal guarantee. As a result of this fairy tail upbringing, they are now completely unemployable and unable or unwilling to function in society.
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Saw a meme today that said they should take their tents and give them to homeless people
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Bless their hearts.
I’m glad, for the most part, their towels and masks were ripped off for the whole world to see these terrorists.
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We needed this reminder of why New Yorks Finest are called...New Yorks Finest. I have a sneaking suspicion that they are relishing the moment and opportunity to remind everyone of why they have that nickname.
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SUNY (State University of New York) has servers schools and campuses. Locally the police broke up protest at University of Buffalo City Campus. There were three different police agencies there. NY’s finest was picking protestors up off ground and carrying them. Then along came Officer K9. It’s amazing how fast the protesters suddenly moved. A well trained German Shepherd is the ultimate crowd control tool.
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SUNY (State University of New York) has servers schools and campuses. Locally the police broke up protest at University of Buffalo City Campus. There were three different police agencies there. NY’s finest was picking protestors up off ground and carrying them. Then along came Officer K9. It’s amazing how fast the protesters suddenly moved. A well trained German Shepherd is the ultimate crowd control tool.
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Here's one where 99% of the little darlings arrested were students. And check out the signs that were found in the cleanup.
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The last one is a "CLEARLY STATED DECLARATION OF WAR" from "The Lion's Den." Hopefully there will be an "appropriate" response Joe
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The last one is a "CLEARLY STATED DECLARATION OF WAR" from "The Lion's Den." Hopefully there will be an "appropriate" response Joe
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They declared war hundreds of years ago, apparently no one is, or has been, listening.
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Protesting students should be expelled.
Foreign students should be deported.
Non-student protesters should be jailed.
What's so hard about that?
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Personal decisiveness and courage (both moral and physical) are not taught or encouraged to any real extent at this time, so those with the power and legitimate authority to do will not have the gumption.
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These people wear masks or bandannas because they are hired thugs that do this kind of thing for a living . They don't want their faces shown and recognized from a different protest .
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