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Not bad but could be better. Around my area (NE Denver) prices vary from mid $2.90's up to $3.20.

I stick with Exxon gas because of the known quality of their product. The price at the station near me fluctuates roughly 10cents every couple weeks but usually settles just below $3.

I think the highest price was around $4.49 somewhere back in the 90's. That ticked me off because I was working and drove a lot more. Since I retired a full tank (27gal) gets me just over a month of driving.

As far as you folks in California....Sorry! Can't help you.
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Not bad but could be better. Around my area (NE Denver) prices vary from mid $2.90's up to $3.20.

I stick with Exxon gas because of the known quality of their product. The price at the station near me fluctuates roughly 10cents every couple weeks but usually settles just below $3.

I think the highest price was around $4.49 somewhere back in the 90's. That ticked me off because I was working and drove a lot more. Since I retired a full tank (27gal) gets me just over a month of driving.

As far as you folks in California....Sorry! Can't help you.
I would be very happy only to pay that much.

I'm a shareholder of Exxon stock, keep up the good work!
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In Pahrump, NV, regular is down the $3.64.
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How we rolls;

We pulls to the pump.

We puts in the plastic.

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A vicious cycle.

We don't quibble over ¢¢
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$4.59 at the local. If I drive 20 miles I can get it down to $3.85 or so.
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Stopped at the Chevron station in Colfax, CA a few weeks back, on the way to the Reno show.

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Waited until I got to Reno.
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Remember.......Oil IS NOT a fossil fuel........No animal DNA has ever been in it. It's continuously formed in the upper magma crust of the earth........There is lots and will always be lots of it.

Iffen oil was made from dead animals we would have run out 100 years ago................THINK about it.......
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Southern NV is in the "diesel is cheaper than regular" twilight zone. Liking that.
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Last tie i filled it was bout $3.40/gal. It fluctuates slightly for the holidays/weekends.
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Six months ago, it hovered around $3-3.10. Now it's fluctuating from $3.40-3.65, sometimes in one week. The gas stations near the range I belong to are usually $0.10-15 cents cheaper, and they are 20+ miles further away from the major distribution center than the gas station two blocks from my home. Prices don't have to do with reality. All of the stations in my in-town area are close to interstate exits, so they are automatically higher priced.
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I have to run "high test in my car. Currently it's running $4.49 per a gallon. Thank goodness I only have to fill up once a month, but that still runs close to $60..00 each fill up. As with several others here I have some Exon stock which has done quite well over the last year i just wish they had stations in my local area.
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Here, in the PNW, all grades over $4.
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I have been using Shell exclusively for several years. Right now the price is in the $3.50 range for regular.

Premium is a full dollar per gallon more!
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The local Shell stations wanted $3.34 for regular today. Of course, I'd have to add an additional $0.70 for premium.
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Filled my Gator up with premium this morning before a 34 mile WMA ride.......$4.10 gal.
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Had to fill up the Corvette today at Costco.
$4.41 92 oct.....
And there the lowest around here unless I go to ID.
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Like post #4, I really don’t know what I pay, but I think it’s around $3.80, once a month maybe. I use grocery store gas and by the time I’m due I’ll have maybe 20-30 cents off per gallon. I try not to worry about the things I can’t control. I CAN control how fast I pump. Angel (my dog) will attract “people” to the car and we talk pets, etc. Never in a hurry. Retirement is a God send and I’m never in a hurry. One attendant will usually come out and talk. She lives fairly close so we have a common road destruction problem we can bit complain about that. I’m a real social butterfly! Beer, gas, and beef are all necessities that I can’t control so I don’t dwell on them. I AM glad I don’t use diesel though. Down over the hill from me is one of those places that fills up the 18 wheel tankers to deliver wherever. Funny, they all have different brands on the side of the trucks but come from the same place.
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Lowest locally today was $2.869 from Sams Club. Other stations range as high as $3.299. I don't trust Sams Club's generic gas. Not that long ago they had to repair several vehicles damaged by their gas. I try to stick with Texaco or Chevron. A bit more, but I know it's good.
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Locally…outside of Phoenix…gas is running about $3.99/gal.
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In My 100 acre wood area, regular 87 is $3.20 to $3.55 with 93 octane going for
$4.05 to $4.20. Of course my new truck uses 93 octane.
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Having to deal with higher fuel costs still has to be better than going without. At least you know where you stand.

The 70's had to be the worst times for most of us. If you were lucky enough to find a gas station that had gas there were long lines. Then there were the odd and even days. People switched license plates so they could get gas when needed.

The station I frequented back then tried to be fair to everyone by imposing a $5 limit on each vehicle. Doesn't sound like much but when gas only went for 30cents per gallon it wasn't bad. The station never ran out out of gas. Always had my repairs done at this place. When done with whatever the mechanic pulled my car out to the pumps and filled it up. It paid to patronize them. They weren't there to just pump gas.

Same goes for all these minimarts out there. You might just find lower prices where there's just as much business inside as at the pumps.
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Oil is from dead phytoplankton

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I have to run "high test in my car. Currently it's running $4.49 per a gallon. Thank goodness I only have to fill up once a month, but that still runs close to $60..00 each fill up. As with several others here I have some Exon stock which has done quite well over the last year i just wish they had stations in my local area.
At our local Town Pump premium is $0.60 more. Ethanol free is $1.00 more. At the Helena Costco ethanol free premium runs $0.30 more. Someone is making buck, and as an Exxon shareholder it isn't me.
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I stick with Exxon gas because of the known quality of their product.
My dad drove a tanker for Esso and then Exxon for many years. He came home and told us countless customers told him that very same thing, which is not true.

The problem with that is that Exxon would buy gasoline for different wholesalers every day depending on spot price for that day.

So, he goes to Dundalk tank farm and this morning Exxon buys product from Tenneco and tomorrow Chevron..The next day they may buy from themselves and the next day from Chevron.

In other words, gasoline is basically gasoline.
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Lowest locally today was $2.869 from Sams Club. Other stations range as high as $3.299. I don't trust Sams Club's generic gas. Not that long ago they had to repair several vehicles damaged by their gas. I try to stick with Texaco or Chevron. A bit more, but I know it's good.
Bad gas happens to every brand and is often a fault with the gas station storage and delivery rather than the actual fuel. Sam's gas doesn't come from Charlie's Cheapo Reprocessed Gas store. They contracted with major suppliers.

As for Texaco, it was the one brand of gas my '64 GTO refused to run on in high school. Haven't bought it since.

Prices in my area are roughly around $3.59. I say roughly because prices can vary 20 cents a gallon from county to county,

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Bad gas happens to every brand and is often a fault with the gas station storage and delivery rather than the actual fuel. Sam's gas doesn't come from Charlie's Cheapo Reprocessed Gas store. They contracted with major suppliers.

As for Texaco, it was the one brand of gas my '64 GTO refused to run on in high school. Haven't bought it since.

Prices in my area are roughly around $3.59. I say roughly because prices can vary 20 cents a gallon from county to county,
Living out in the boonies we pay more. If at all possible we try to get gas when going into a more populated area.


There is a gas station not too far from a couple of big launch sights so many boaters stop there to get gas. They would rather tow the boat with low gas for the weight advantage and fill up close to the lake.

Its a big lake so we get big fast boats. Most boaters want and get none E gas. Its a decent amount of money spent to put in about a 100+ gallons of close to $5 a gallon. Course its much cheaper to get it there than in the water. Getting it at a marina another $1.40 a gallon over land price will be a normal charge.

The land gas station normally gets their tanks filled up every good weather Friday or Sat night.
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Just returned to TN from a trip north. Gas in IL ranged from maybe $3.40 to $3.80 outside of the big cities so it was nice to get home and see prices around $3.00. Never thought we'd get to the point of celebrating $3.00 gas but here we are. Our roadmobile is a 2020 Ford Expedition which is great for all of our stuff and a 90 pound puppy, and surprisingly during our 1600 mile journey it averaged just under 21 mpg. Actually pretty happy with that.
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I don't know how oil came to be/comes to be. I do know that there is quite a bit left, and that my quadrennial vote would affect the price, if I lived in a swing state. I am also very suspicious of alternative energy sources, especially for automobiles, although I do suspect that there are some.

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About two years ago there was a study released by the US Geological Survey office that stated there is at minimum several hundred years of oil left in North America using established methods of extraction. That doesn't mean it's all easy to get but it's there. It just takes the political will to do so...and ignoring the naysayers.

Of course...while the report was issued it was little publicized as it doesn't follow that desired narrative of the powers that be.

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About two years ago there was a study released by the US Geographical Survey office that stated there is at minimum several hundred years of oil left in North America using established methods of extraction. That doesn't mean it's all easy to get but it's there. It just takes the political will to do so...and ignoring the naysayers.

Of course...while the report was issued it was little publicized as it doesn't follow that desired narrative of the powers that be.
Funny how "Follow the Science" only applies when they agree with the results.
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Bad gas happens to every brand and is often a fault with the gas station storage and delivery rather than the actual fuel. Sam's gas doesn't come from Charlie's Cheapo Reprocessed Gas store. They contracted with major suppliers.

As for Texaco, it was the one brand of gas my '64 GTO refused to run on in high school. Haven't bought it since.

Prices in my area are roughly around $3.59. I say roughly because prices can vary 20 cents a gallon from county to county,

The only time I've seen gas from a non-mainstream oil company was in the UK where the chemical company ICI had gas stations. Seems that they bought crude for their business and gasoline was a by-product. The chairman of ICI once said out loud that in business terms he could sell the gas for a lot less, but then it might suddenly get difficult to buy crude for his core business. Probably wouldn't have made much difference as about 60% of what you pay in the UK is various taxes and duties.
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In other words, gasoline is basically gasoline.
That's the only line in your post I would agree with. Before being dispensed into a tanker for delivery all gas is basically the same.

Companies like Exxon and Shell have additives/detergents added in before delivery to a station making them different from other gasolines. If it wasn't true they would've been sued into bankruptcy for false advertising.

Numerous studies have also proven that some gasolines keep the engines valves free of carbon deposits longer than others. This fact is undisputable.
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My car gets the good stuff (ethanol free). Unfortunately they charge more for the non-watered down gas.
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That's the only line in your post I would agree with. Before being dispensed into a tanker for delivery all gas is basically the same.

Companies like Exxon and Shell have additives/detergents added in before delivery to a station making them different from other gasolines. If it wasn't true they would've been sued into bankruptcy for false advertising.

Numerous studies have also proven that some gasolines keep the engines valves free of carbon deposits longer than others. This fact is undisputable.
Except, I didn't say that. ..I said all gasoline is basically the same....And it is and always will be. You added the rest to my statement.

And...No...It's not true, trust me. You are a victim of marketing just like everyone my father talked to on a weekly basis. There is secret behind retail marketing versus wholesale bulk sales.

What I explained is marketing and advertising and not truth....For example "Chevron with Textron" is nothing different than any other gasoline. They all have detergent and they all have octane and refining standards..More importantly, gasoline simply has to meet octane standards and ethanol levels that are checked by state inspectors randomly at gas stations and at a wholesale level.

Before my 20+ year law enforcement career, I worked for Flowers Industries for about 6 years...On any given day, I transported 6 pack cherry/cheese danish all day long. If the order was for Sunbeam at $2.49 and went to Massachusetts, then it would be dayglo priced at $2.49 and several thousand packs would be shipped with a Sunbeam label...fast forward ten minutes, a 125,000 six pack order was started with "Dixie Darling" labels for .99 cents and this order would go to Alabama and Florida for a multiple shift run....Same exact danishes, different label and double and a half the price.

This is called confirmation bias...Believing something that you believe is definitely true, whether it is true or not...This is why branding is a thing and successful, even when it's the same.

The days of every fifth vehicle on the road fouling plugs and having to pull in the Mayberry filling station to have your points sanded are over and have been for decades.

I can always tell people that have not worked behind the curtain and are only used to retail sales of products.




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I don’t look,I just fill it up and go…of course,I’ve only driven 12000 miles in the last two years lol
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I’m retired and I don’t need to or go many places, I filled my truck up a couple months ago and it still has more than half a tank. But yes stuff is expensive these days.
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PA has some of the highest gasoline taxes in the country. Drop down to Maryland and the price of gasoline drops 30 cents a gallon.
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Except, I didn't say that. ..I said all gasoline is basically the same....And it is and always will be. You added the rest to my statement.
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That's the only line in your post I would agree with. Before being dispensed into a tanker for delivery all gas is basically the same.
Notice that I'm only agreeing that all gasoline is basically the same but only until it leaves the refinery. I'm not going to play semantics with you. There are minimum Federal standards that must be met regarding octane,ethanol and detergents. That's a given which can't be argued. The added detergents are the difference. There's a minimun standard but more can be added.

As cars and trucks evolved technically carmakers asked for better gasoline to make their vehicles as efficient as possible. That's where Top Tier gas comes in. Top Tier gas has more additives like detergents that sets it apart from other gas products. That also is not debatable. Do your research.

Again I'll say that all gas is the same (Fed standards) until it leaves the refinery. Exxon has an additive package that they require in their fuel that sets it apart from most other fuels.

It's not marketing as you would suggest but independent lab testing. I did my research and it isn't based on what I've been told.

I'm done here.
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I'm done here.
Of course you are "done" as I knew you would be...

Just so can understand and I'll simplify this for you.

When gasoline or any petroleum distillate "leaves the refinery" it goes into huge holding tanks...

The refined products go to bulk tanks and then they are distributed via tanker trucks for gasoline stations via tankers. At that point all fuel products are identical except for octane and ethanol content, which they are separated by baffled tankers.

There is no Chef Boyardee that makes a few boutique gallons here or there somehow different than other product None....Never.

From there, the gasoline is loaded into tanker trucks at Dundalk and other similar tank farms and distributed to stations... It is then sold under a brand...Whatever "brand" that pays the most that morning at spot comex price...In other words, all gasoline will be purchased, loaded and delivered day after day the same way...Low spot bid via computer bid and when settled, that's where all tankers load.

All of these fuels will all meet federal and state octane/ethanol/sulphur/detergent standards unless they risk fines, but they are still always identical...

Have a good one and I am glad you now understand branding of both gasoline and all petroleum products specifically.

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We're up 40 to 60 cents a gallon from a low of $3.09 here in my corner of Vermont. The sudden price hike coincided nicely with Iran's missile and drone launch a few weeks back.
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We're up 40 to 60 cents a gallon from a low of $3.09 here in my corner of Vermont. The sudden price hike coincided nicely with Iran's missile and drone launch a few weeks back.
And the short summer us Northern people get is coming up fast. Prices always go up at that time!
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Of course you are "done" as I knew you would be...

Just so can understand and I'll simplify this for you.

When gasoline or any petroleum distillate "leaves the refinery" it goes into huge holding tanks...

The refined products go to bulk tanks and then they are distributed via tanker trucks for gasoline stations via tankers. At that point all fuel products are identical except for octane and ethanol content, which they are separated by baffled tankers.

There is no Chef Boyardee that makes a few boutique gallons here or there somehow different than other product None....Never.

From there, the gasoline is loaded into tanker trucks at Dundalk and other similar tank farms and distributed to stations... It is then sold under a brand...Whatever "brand" that pays the most that morning at spot comex price...In other words, all gasoline will be purchased, loaded and delivered day after day the same way...Low spot bid via computer bid and when settled, that's where all tankers load.

All of these fuels will all meet federal and state octane/ethanol/sulphur/detergent standards unless they risk fines, but they are still always identical...

Have a good one and I am glad you now understand branding of both gasoline and all petroleum products specifically.
There are local differences though.

Some places have air quality regulations that require special blends (and therefor more expensive). Then there is summer and winter blends.

A few years back some gas stations ran dry, I forget why. Shortages of their local blend? There were no shortages here.

Here in MN, the E10 is only 91 octane. I have seen 92 in very few places. Everyplace else I have ever been E10 is 93. No idea why, I'm not aware of any local regulation that requires it. None of the locals know why either.
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There are local differences though.

Some places have air quality regulations that require special blends (and therefor more expensive). Then there is summer and winter blends.

A few years back some gas stations ran dry, I forget why. Shortages of their local blend? There were no shortages here.

Here in MN, the E10 is only 91 octane. I have seen 92 in very few places. Everyplace else I have ever been E10 is 93. No idea why, I'm not aware of any local regulation that requires it. None of the locals know why either.
That happened here a couple of years back. There was a glitch in the summer/winter switch IIRC.

We only get 91 octane as our "Premium" here. How much of that is caused by the way the California refineries are run or regulated I cannot say. Either way, in Southern NV we are stuck with what they send up the pipe.
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There are local differences though.

Some places have air quality regulations that require special blends (and therefor more expensive). Then there is summer and winter blends.

A few years back some gas stations ran dry, I forget why. Shortages of their local blend? There were no shortages here.

Here in MN, the E10 is only 91 octane. I have seen 92 in very few places. Everyplace else I have ever been E10 is 93. No idea why, I'm not aware of any local regulation that requires it. None of the locals know why either.
Correct! As to the local blend, I remember there was a blend difference for the seasons because my dad said all wholesalers would intentionally start running tank inventories down when seasons were changing to accomodate for the new season's blend. I would say that places like where I live now in Florida, the blend never changes because the weather is fairly constant.

As to octane differences I have seen the same thing...In some areas premium is 93 and some it's 91....I have seen 87,91 and 93 all at the same pump in southern Georgia.
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Had to fill up the Corvette today at Costco.
$4.41 92 oct.....
And there the lowest around here unless I go to ID.
For REAL PAZZAS some people hee buy Aviation Fuel from the airport.......Bout $5 a gal BUT.........Makes yer pony want to kick up his hind legs and snort.
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AVGAS 115/145 typically contains lead.

I can personally attest that prolonged use in an automobile will burn the rings out.
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I can personally attest that prolonged use in an automobile will burn the rings out.
Not to mention the lead will kill a catalytic converter.
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