LEO are now being told to ignore minor infractions of the law and concentrate on more serious crime. Expired vehicle registration and not using your turn signal are just two examples of things they will ignore.

In other words nothing has changed only that now turning a blind eye is permissible. Meanwhile running stop signs or excessive speed is okay as long as it isn't done in a reckless manner.

It used to be...
"Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."

Now it's...
"Trying different things but getting the same result."

It's still stupidity no matter how you look at it.

Why do we have laws and why do we keep enacting laws if they are meaningless?

Denver and Boulder are 2 nuts in a sack so to speak. You have a um, liberal mayor and a Kalifornia Governor I mean a Colorado Governor that are in lock step. Hang on tight gang, it is only going to get worse.

If you guys have catch and release bail reform, then yeah, it'll be the wild Wild West, and then some!

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More like The West is becoming Chicago (et cet)?

They tried that here in Pittsburgh. I don’t think it went over very well. Many people were getting into unnecessary fender benders, etc. It didn’t work.

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An unjust law is no law at all, and likewise, laws that aren't enforced are not really laws in practical terms.

Our country was founded on the principle that we are a nation of laws - meaning that the law applies equally to everyone in every circumstance regardless of their status or position in our society.

Moral relativism has undermined that principle to the point that many people are OK with applying a double-standard of the law - as long as it benefits THEIR position and THEIR preferred party/candidate.

The idea that RIGHT is RIGHT and WRONG is WRONG - and we (society) will stand for what is RIGHT, has been replaced with a philosophy of only punishing the most egregious offenses - because it is too inconvenient to pursue and prosecute lesser offenses.

What a sad state of affairs...

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I think that the question of the rule of law is on the ballot this November. I also know that police shortages are nationwide and the salaries are not high enough to provide decent housing, etc. My hat is off to the law enforcement professionals.

But if you forget to fasten your seat belt there is sure to be a coupon good for a couple hundred. Driving with an odor of alcohol, time to mortgage the house.

A few years ago I failed to notice that someone had stolen my license plate. Took me a couple of visits to court to talk my way out of a $500 fine. Local police wouldn't even respond to take a theft report, just gave me an incident number over the phone (same when my utility trailer was stolen from my driveway; same when my truck window was broken out and a couple hundred bucks worth of stuff stolen). County clerk's office nicked me $50 for replacement plates.

After a major spring windstorm we had a huge accumulation of weeds blown into our property from the adjacent property, city threatened major fines and demanded clean-up. The adjacent property belongs to the city!

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Then there is this story from yesterday about the six "newcomers" who beat up a couple of NYC cops. Migrants charged in attack on NYPD cops in Times Square offered plea deals

Locally we have a George Soros bought and paid for DA who refuses to prosecute anyone so long as they are a minority of some stripe.

Hmm, the county issues license plates in Colorado? First I've ever heard of that.

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Thing is, so many people who commit repeated "small" driving infractions are often in the middle of some other, more serious transgression. It's in their nature. Criminals live thinking that rules don't apply to them, be it moving meth, human trafficking, or registering their vehicles. Watch two or three reruns of the TV show "Cops" and you will see what I mean.

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Yup, that’s how we did things in my 30 years and it paid off pretty often. If we continue to ignore the small things crime will get MUCH worse in a short amount of time.

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Yeah, in Washington State, having expired tabs (an unlicensed vehicle) isn't an offense that you can be pulled over for (primary reason for being stopped) BUT, not wearing your seatbelt is still sufficient reason for the police to pull you over. How does that make any kind of sense?

I hear you, in today's America, whether or not you get charged and prosecuted for breaking the law is less about what laws you may have broken, and more about what "intersectional" group you fit into.

So it isn't really about your behavior or what you actually DO - it is more about what "oppressed" group you "self-identify" as being a part of...

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Tags in Alabama are sold through the county as well.

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WAR EAGLE!

In the "Wild Wild West" they had Committees of Vigilance, necktie parties, people just "disappeared"...

Same in Idaho

Yeah, they’re sold through the County in Wyoming too. There was a time when Denver was a nice place, as cities go. The 16th Street Mall in the center of the downtown was an upscale, trendy area with lots of people walking around the shops and restaurants. Now it’s a cesspool overrun with migrants and homeless. It smells like marijuana and sewage. I was last down there a couple of months ago on a work project, but I’m not going back again. Sad to say, those folks got what they elected as far as I’m concerned and they can have it.

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I think many agencies are now doing this. Jus bigger fish to fry with their limited time. Sad.

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Last time I was in Denver was 1996. Don't plan to ever return. I have hunted in Colorado several times. 'Nuff said.

Perhaps the time has come to take the UK attitude on vehicles. Unregistered? Seized. No insurance? Seized. No current inspection (the dreaded MOT test) and it's on the road? Well, I'm not sure, but given that you cannot register and insure a vehicle for road use with a current MOT.... Are we seeing the pattern here?

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Yup! And they're all different from each other. Leave it up to each county and they'll find a way to tick off the residents. You can get your D.L. anywhere but not your plates.

It was that way when I lived in Pa. Of course,you could bribe the mechanic to overlook something.

I think Denver has the same problem as some other large cities. The large influx of migrants has cost the city so much money that it has limited resources to deal with crime. Something has to give so petty crimes will be ignored.

Yes, motor vehicle registrations are handled by county clerks offices. State of Colorado continues to operate the Motor Vehicles Division within the Department of Revenue, with offices around the state to issue driver licenses.

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https://cowboystatedaily.imgix.net/D...it=clip&w=2048

County Sheriff in Cheyenne Wyoming erected a huge sign in Denver stating we still enforce the law here and LEOs are still respected.
If you are tired of not being allowed to do your job, come see us, we’re hiring.

Been over 100 inquiries not all from Denver, since it went up.

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Same here in South Dakota. I left the Denver metro area three years ago. Never going back for anything.

I hate cities. I go there only when absolutely necessary. I don't like crowds and when I do go someplace with a lot of people it's a quick in and out and back to the rural mountains where I live. If I didn't need supplies and groceries etc I'd probably not leave home here for months. No desire to. I enjoy my quiet little world here.

When I was pushing a radiator instead of a desk I recall that NHTSA had put out a pamphlet about the more traffic contacts you make the less crime you will have. I whole heartedly believe that. If the bad guys/gals/non-binary.... know that the cops are out hitting traffic hard it will be more difficult for them to get around without getting stopped. Let's face it, those that do bad things don't really keep their vehicles in tip top shape and like to speed. Gotta start somewhere.

Re preventing your plates from being stolen, use screws with uncommon heads so that your average bum can't unscrew 'em. Won't stop an experienced thief, of course, but will weed out the casual ones.

I wonder how long it be before the current leaders in Colorado start the process to change the name of Colorado, to "Colofornia"?

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Sadly, only a few years ago, traffic laws were aggressively enforced. Was up in Denver visiting friends, rolled forward at a stop to see if it was clear to turn right, friend that was the local freaked... apparently I had pre-turned into the crosswalk and bike lane... she acted like I ran over grandma... so things have changed a bit in Colorado.. wasn't planning on going back, gun restrictions and marijuana everywhere... not a great place anymore.

This stuff is happening to the larger cities in North Carolina also. Fortunately I live on a farm in a very rural part of a very conservative southern state. I have to go to town occasionally but really don't enjoy it.

This stuff is happening in a lot of cities. Police depts are over stretched,understaffed and funds are tight or going to the wrong places

What choice did you have if you had no view? We have stop signs and lines 4-5 yards back from the 45 mph road you wish to enter. The thing is the neighborhood walls extend way beyond stop signs and their lines. Are you supposed to banzai from the line where you cannot see? I am firmly convinced that road designers here never drive themselves, and that goes for freeway ramps, too. The favorite trick here is the kink in the on ramp right at the point that a driver thinking ahead wants to look over his/her shoulder to see what's coming. It's maddening.

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The city that used to be Houston 50 miles North
of me had around 5300 sworn officers when I retired in 1999.
Huge growth in 24 years.
Sworn officers today around 5300.

Current scandal now....several thousand cases cleared by
"lack of personnel."
Not exactly a useable UCR code.

The last 6 or 8 months I was working I was calling CSPD to remove trespassers or for property damage and being told that the calls were either low priority or no priority and the police weren't coming.

I called the fire department (same call center) for a car fire in an abandoned parking lot and was told they'd get there when they could.

The only reason I bothered to call was to get an incident number for my report to prove I did my job.

I see cars daily that have tags expired by years. people pay no attention to stop signs or red lights.

There was a story in the news recently about a guy who drove a motorcycle from Co Springs to Denver in 20 minutes (average speed 170MPH). He got a $300 fine, 13 days in jail in Texas and his license suspended. Only because he posted it on YouTube That means he drove Co Springs to Denver without encountering a single cop.

You can't throw a rock in Colorado Springs without hitting a homeless Camp. It used to be that homeless people avoided contact with the cops, now they don't care because the cops won't come.

They move into the shopping center parking lots and refuse to leave. There's a new city ordinance in Colorado Springs that as long as they move their vehicle every 24 hours they can't be towed. It takes months to get anybody evicted from an apartment around here. Almost every brush fire we've had in the last 3 months in Colorado Springs started in a homeless camp

I have my own opinion about the root causes of all this but I can't discuss them here

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Think about it:
6% of the population commit virtually all crimes. They don’t give one **** about any law.
On the other hand, the other 94% obey laws almost compulsively so lawmakers see themselves as wildly successful.

Simple solutions by the simple minded. Joe

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Those poor motorcyclists...

It is now legal for them to bypass long lines of stopped traffic by riding between cars to advance their position.

You older riders have a great respect for the law and safety but I have serious doubts about how the younger generations of riders will interpret this new opportunity to show off.

I am not quite so concerned about blinkers, rolling stops and seat belts IF the cops are focusing on criminal behavior.

Good idea! Seizing unlicensed, unregistered, and uninsured vehicles sounds like one way to reduce the number of uninsured motorists on the road, and thereby reduce the premiums that we law-abiding citizens pay for "uninsured motorist" coverage.

WIN-WIN!

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About 23yrs ago I got pulled over for a speeding violation. Cars were passing me but I was the one to get stopped. I asked the cop why he pulled me over. He sarcastically says "You ever go duck hunting?" I replied "Yes and I'm obviously a better shot than you!"

Got the last word and a ticket reminding me to keep my mouth shut.

`Kind of proof that criminals are stupid. A crook hauling drugs breaking the speed limit or driving on expired plates or some other infraction that just says here I am stop me.

I’ve often said that if my son and his kids weren’t here I’d leave Colorado. He just retired from the Colorado Army National Guard after 20 years and is a firefighter/paramedic with an area fd plus is on the water rescue team. He has a very good gig going and those kids are my life.

I am in the Denver metro area (been here 40 years) but stay out of the city as much as I can. Love the mountains and all they offer but the politics of this place drive me nuts.

Not pulling them over for expired inspection stickers and "california" stops is leaving A LOT of money on the table...jest pointing out the obvious.
Traffic infractions are a great money maker. Plus you get the double whammy of stopping crime-Just look at New York during Rudy Guilanni with their zero tolerance. Crime nosedived.

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Substitute 'California' for Colorado and you could be talking about any big city in the state; the major difference would be in the size of the problem. A recent comment from LAFD said that 54% of city fires were as a result of homeless encampments. The county FD too has a similar statistic.

It is getting worse as our state government seems to be leading the nation wide charge to provide services for all of the un-homed.
California has 1/3 of the nations un-homed and spent over $24billion in the last 5 years yet they can't seem to find any solutions.

I think the only thing being solved with the 'un-homed & street population' situation is a full employment opportunity for the out-of-work politicos and bureaucrats that provide these services.
One quote that fits the situation best is: "Spread bird seed, get more birds".

I watch the crime shows like Cops etc. and it never ceases to amaze me how the criminal will be hauling a bunch of drugs with a headlight out or speeding as mentioned above.

It is not societies fault these idiots commit crimes.

Kudos to your son for being able to make a good life for his self and family.

I've lived in N.E.Denver for 34yrs and think I've seen it all...

The old airport torn down and the ensuing traffic nightmare from the new homes and businesses.

The revitalization of Downtown which brought new life to the city. Some people took a huge bow for that accomplishment but have no solution for the crime that followed.

In my short time here and all of the money spent for improvement it is still lipstick on the pig and nothing has changed. The Left is that pig and will always be hungry.

Gotta love this. Laramie County SO in Wyoming is trolling Denver PD and the mayor.

Billboard in Colorado reads ‘Work in Wyoming where breaking the law is STILL ILLEGAL’

A fan of OnPatrol Live.

People get stopped for doing 75 in a 35, expired plates, no DL, tail lights out, etc etc. Drugs or guns in plain sight.
“That belongs to my cousin” or “ not mine officer” or “ lent the car to a friend”.
Love the drunks being field tested,hilarious. “Had two drinks five hours ago”

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I heard an interview with a career criminal once and the way he put it is, "Never break more than one law at a time."

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