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Old 05-20-2024, 07:43 PM
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Wrong!!!

A taco as we know it is a roll over made with either a soft or hard taco shell in place of a piece of white bread. A quesadilla is a lot closer to a sammich then a taco is.
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Look up the definition of a sandwich. Then look up the definition of bread. Case closed. A Taco is not a sandwich. A hamburger is a sandwich.
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I couldn't find why this was an issue. Was there a zoning ordinance saying you can (or can't) have a sandwich shop there?
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I couldn't find why this was an issue. Was there a zoning ordinance saying you can (or can't) have a sandwich shop there?
Yes . . . .
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Once up in Indianapolis I decided to make my World Famous Gringo Tacos for some In-laws.
Went to Kroger's for supplies.
Was amazed to read the Corn Tortillas were made in Minneapolis!
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How do we get "Junk Law" like this?

An old chief was sitting talking with his son when 2 women came to him because the younger wanted to pitch her tepee in the same spot as the older one. The older one was claiming she had use that spot for years. The chief told them to leave him alone, it was not the tribe's problem or the chief's problem, it was their problem, so they needed to figure it out on their own.

When they left the son asked the chief why he had not told the younger to find a different spot as it was obviously the "right thing to do" . The chief responded, once I make a ruling on something as minor as a spot for a tepee I will forever be called upon to make such minor rulings, when reasonable people are perfectly capable of doing so on their own.

OUR CHIEFS LOST THAT WISDOM LONG AGO. Plus, our chiefs relish being able to dictate all things no matter how small.

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I couldn't find why this was an issue. Was there a zoning ordinance saying you can (or can't) have a sandwich shop there?
Yes. And I wondered why this was even an issue in the first place. According to one of the many articles:
...Quintana had previously signed a zoning agreement that prohibits fast-food style restaurants except for a “sandwich bar-style restaurant whose primary business is to sell ‘made-to-order’ or ‘subway-style’ sandwiches.”

So, Subway or Jimmy John’s would be allowed to open in the shopping center, but places like McDonald’s and Wendy’s could not...
If you go back to the origin of the term, you have to wonder if even the condominium association's defintion might be valid
The sandwich is named after John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, an eighteenth-century English aristocrat. It is commonly said that Lord Sandwich, during long sessions of cribbage and other card games at public gambling houses, would order his valet to bring him salt beef between two pieces of toasted bread. He was fond of this form of food because it allowed him to continue gambling while eating, without the need for a fork, and without getting his cards greasy from eating meat with his bare hands.(Wikipedia)
Judges must shake their heads at some of the stuff thay have to rule on.
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Headed South from TJ, we stopped for lunch,
The Mrs said Tequila and this Taco sandwich is
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I replied, and some other parts as well.
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...The Mrs said Tequila and this Taco sandwich is the Cat's meow.
I replied, and some other parts as well.
My cat has just stated that he officially objects to this comment He suggests "the dog's bollocks" as a suitable alternative.
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How do we get "Junk Law" like this?
Sounds like you've never watched city council members in action!

Speaking of PITA, I wonder where a Gyro fits into this?
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The zoning law was clearly racist. Onwards to SCOTUS!
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Look up the definition of a sandwich. Then look up the definition of bread. Case closed. A Taco is not a sandwich. A hamburger is a sandwich.

Bread is made with grains ground into flour and mixed with eggs, milk and maybe some leavening.
Meat, or other ingredients, wrapped in bread becomes a sandwich.
By that reasoning, a flour/corn tortilla is a Mexican sandwich called a Taco, also a burrito, along with an Italian Cannoli and a Greek Gyro are sandwiches too.
French crepes are pan cakes until they are filled and wrapped around the filling, then they too can be classed as sandwiches.
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Local restaurant will make any sandwich a roll-up, I like the way the roll-up holds onto the juice that normally runs all over the place. He makes a terrific lamb roll-up that holds onto the tzatziki like no sandwich can. I love sandwiches, especially as it warms up. Its all in the fold with a roll-up, my foster son taught me how to roll a burrito while working at a local Mexican joint, we ate a lot of breakfast burritos.
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True, but ordering food at a Mexican food is limited to picking the presentation. Same pots of beef, beans, chicken and steak. Do you want it corn or flour, soft, crispy, flat, formed, wrapped, in a bowl, or do you want to assemble it yourself . . . ?
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I couldn't find why this was an issue. Was there a zoning ordinance saying you can (or can't) have a sandwich shop there?
They only wanted 'sub style' sandwiches and wanted to keep big burger chains out of the strip mall. So big sub chains can move in (Subway, Jersey Mikes, Panera Bread and Arby's???)but taco chains cannont??? But burgers are more like sandwiches than tacos. If you are going to make exclusive polices you need to be careful of the wording.

'Famous Taco' isn't even among the 20 or so biggest taco chains that I looked up.
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Bread is made with grains ground into flour and mixed with eggs, milk and maybe some leavening.
Meat, or other ingredients, wrapped in bread becomes a sandwich.
By that reasoning, a flour/corn tortilla is a Mexican sandwich called a Taco, also a burrito, along with an Italian Cannoli and a Greek Gyro are sandwiches too.
French crepes are pan cakes until they are filled and wrapped around the filling, then they too can be classed as sandwiches.
Technically speaking, flour tortillas are bread but corn tortillas are not. According to the definition of bread, leavening is required. Corn tortillas contain none but flour tortillas do contain a tiny amount of baking powder.

Traditional bread recipes use yeast. Chemical leavening agents such as baking powder are used in things like cornbread and pancakes.

If you stand on the flour and leavening agent to determine what is bread, then a whole host of things are bread. Pancakes. Apple pie. Many battered fried foods.

Common usage also comes into play. If you opened a Taco stand you're probably not going to hang a sign that says "Sandwich Shop" or "Pancake House" or "House of PIes".

Hispanics call it a Torta. Not a Taco.
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Slow day at the courthouse, maybe the judge just felt like it was time to issue a ruling.
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To me the whole thing is stupid, they past a stupid "law". That brought on a controversy. That brought on lawyers and a Judge.

The law was a waste of the governing bodies time. Just how important is what type of food is served where in the first place? It maters every bit as much as whose on a pancake box, a beer can or what logo is on a football helmet. If the governing bodies would quit catering to such "karen" nonsense and actual work on real issues instead of trying to micro manage the populous we would all be better off

This issue is very similar to all the HOA BS. I could care less how often my neighbor mows HIS grass, what color he paints HIS house or if he has a junker car in HIS driveway. Not MY business. It effects my property values! Boo Hoo, life isn't fair and forcing other people to YOUR standards isn't going to make it fair. I would rather get along with my by actually talking to them. If they don't see it the way I do that is THEIR RIGHT.

Besides the more value my property has the more the government is going to demand I pay them for the privilege of owning my property. With that money they can pass and enforce laws that control the behavior of the respectful people while being ignored by those who could give rats rear end. HOO RAY.

Everyone complains about government over reach except when they want some to satisfy their own personal beliefs.

Less government, less money, less stupid are all tied together

We were handed a perfectly good set of rules to live by with the signing of the CONSTITUTION, but, it didn't take long before it started to come unraveled with the I/we want this, this means that, the more they did the more got nitpicked. Right now congress can't even govern itself, let alone a nation. It will not get better, no mater whose "side" wins what. That there has been any real amount of improvement since the 1950s is seriously debatable. Mostly it has just been more nitpicking, more money and more division.

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Now if the judge ruled tacos are garbage not suitable for hogs I would agree.
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Depends on the Tacos. Just like it depends on the burger, the sandwich etc. Most fast food is processed garbage in the first place.
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Fine Asian cuisine on old China.
Are they a closed roll sandwich?
We call this delicacy, the Bruce Lee Spring Sandwich.
Two springs between egg rolls.
Followed by what might be called, an open faced sandwich,
Key Lime pie.

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Some of the comments illistrate just how rediculous it is having a court define what is or is not a sandwhich.

I can't believe congress hasn't passed any laws reguarding how a steak gets cooked and which condiments may or may not be served with it. But, then being as it is not in the Constitution, wouldn't it be an issue for the individual states to decide and if so why, oh, why haven't they acted on this issue?
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I can't believe congress hasn't passed any laws reguarding how a steak gets cooked and which condiments may or may not be served with it. But, then being as it is not in the Constitution, wouldn't it be an issue for the individual states to decide and if so why, oh, why haven't they acted on this issue?
It IS a state rights issue. The only reason the states have not acted on it is apparently nobody has figured out how to make money off it.
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I probably shouldn't say this because some nit with might actually take it to heart, but they could impose a tax on the internal temperature of the steak multiplied by it weight in grams. A condiment tax could be placed on restaurants bases on the volume used.

We now have taxes and fees on most types of property, income, investments, capitol gains, inheritance and estate taxes, luxuries, tires, gas, electricity heating fuel, phones, purchases, booze, tobacco, gifts, travel, parking, some places tax paper bags, sugared drinks, motel bed tax, etc

Why not on a well done steak and some A1 to juice it back up?
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A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet...

The local ordinance prohibiting any fast-food OTHER than subway-style sandwiches was and is ridiculously narrow to start with. Subway is OK, but Burger King ISN'T? WHY?!?

IMO, the Karens on the town Council who passed the ordinance to prevent anyone from providing services that the majority of people would want is a just another example of elitists trying to control EVERYTHING in society - based on THEIR opinions and biases. Much like the horror stories about HOA's.

Calling a taco a "Mexican Sandwich" to nullify such an unreasonable and ridiculous ordinance seems pretty reasonable to me. Kinda' like a judicial version of "jury nullification".

IMO, we need more judges like this one - judges who see things from a broader perspective.

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Cornbread ?

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Technically speaking, flour tortillas are bread but corn tortillas are not. According to the definition of bread, leavening is required. Corn tortillas contain none but flour tortillas do contain a tiny amount of baking powder.

Traditional bread recipes use yeast. Chemical leavening agents such as baking powder are used in things like cornbread and pancakes.

If you stand on the flour and leavening agent to determine what is bread, then a whole host of things are bread. Pancakes. Apple pie. Many battered fried foods.

Common usage also comes into play. If you opened a Taco stand you're probably not going to hang a sign that says "Sandwich Shop" or "Pancake House" or "House of PIes".

Hispanics call it a Torta. Not a Taco.
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