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Please look. WHAT is this insignia?
I now have come apon two of these collapsing cups and have been wondering what the "R" inside the Keystone is.
I didnt find an image on google or ebay yet, Can you help me with it?
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Looks like a proof mark. A coppersmith in Reading, PA?
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That would be a great guess,,,,
The other cup I have also has the "R" inside the Keystone, But marked real small inside the handle, "Germany"
This is a pickle!
Could it be a Reading railroad item?
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only if you have pennsivania ave! lol but I couldn't find anything either
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the icon for the reading railroad
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The keystone was the symbol of the Pennsylvania Railroad. It was used as the front end insignia and builder's plates on all their steam locomotives (especially those built by the company at their Altoona shops), on the company lanterns, switch locks, dining car plates, etc., etc. The Pennsy was merged with the New York Central (interestingly, two major rivals) in the late 1960's or early 1970's to form the Penn-Central. You have two interesting pieces of "railroadiana" there, which probably have a great deal of collector interest.
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The keystone is a fairly common logo symbol.
Logos seem hard to research, though.
I doubt the cups relate to railroads. Reading's logo is a diamond shape. PRR's IS a keystone, but it has "PRR" intertwined. Trains are big enough to haul cups that don't collapse.
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The keystone is a fairly common logo symbol.
Logos seem hard to research, though.
I doubt the cups relate to railroads. Reading's logo is a diamond shape. PRR's IS a keystone, but it has "PRR" intertwined. Trains are big enough to haul cups that don't collapse.
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And this is why I am still buggered as to where they came from, One has no location mark while the other does say "germany" But both have the keystone with the "R" in side of it.
I agree that a train can handle full size cups, But how about promotional cups, Something done in really cheap plastic these days...
Hopefully someone will find something...
I am tires of googling it, But I will continue my quest.
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You might try www.bing.com I have been using this along with Google and Bing is as good or better. Jeff
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Old reynolds allumimnum trademark?
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Well, here's a big leap. The shoulder patch for the 28th Infantry Division was a keystone. Is it possible it is someones initial in the Division symbol? A soldier would have had a use for a collapsing cup.
Wild stabbing guess.
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Cup pictured appears to be stainless, The other I have is older which is nickel over brass?
or silver over brass,,,,
So I doubt Reynolds Alum.
Still the mystery continues.
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The proper term is a hallmark, used to identify the maker.
There are some resources available but they are normally for the identification of silver pieces.
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Maybe from Keystone Liquors. 
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The proper term is a hallmark, used to identify the maker.
There are some resources available but they are normally for the identification of silver pieces.
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Not a hallmark. Hallmarks are reserved for precious metals.
It is a logo or trademark. (maybe both apply)
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Anything else I can Google?
I gave the real nice old one to my lady, She collects old train memoribilia and I am hoping that it is a RR symbol,,,,,
She's real happy with it too!
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Reading Rail Road.
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R in keystone trademark
I have a wooden card box with a small pad of paper inside that has this trade mark along with the words Trade mark on either side of the keystone. Otherwise it looks the same. The box has a nice red laquer chinese carving on top and is covered with very old leather the lock also has the same trademark . Looks fairly fancy and high end.
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Here is the definitive answer: It is the symbol for the Hal Roach movie studio. Roach was famous for making movies featuring the Keystone Cups.
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Here is the definitive answer: It is the symbol for the Hal Roach movie studio. Roach was famous for making movies featuring the Keystone Cups.
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Man, you had to dig kinda deep to pull that one out. 
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Here is the definitive answer: It is the symbol for the Hal Roach movie studio. Roach was famous for making movies featuring the Keystone Cups.
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Now I don't feel nearly as bad as I did for my posting in the panda thread.
OK, the trademark is the C. F. Rumpp & Sons Company, Philadelphia. An importer of various leather goods, silver plate and other stuff, went out of business in 1959. A sample (see the 5th photo) at C.F. Rumpp & Sons Silver Plate Collapsible by WeekendGolfWarrior
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