HK P2000...

My hands are just large enough I cannot do sub compacts like I can do compacts.

I bought the P2000 .40 LEM from a range buddy. Its seen real world work.

Its honestly flawless. No failures. Dang thing is dirty too! Very accurate. 60' bulls-eyes! Ceaselessly firing by the way or quite quick shooting as soon as the sights line up! I go through a 50 box in 5 minutes easily

I'm authorized to carry the Glock 19, Glock 26 and my S&W Model 49 Bodyguard. They work and I've never had any trouble with any of them. I own more revolvers than semi-autos. But I trust my Glocks.

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If it doesn't go bang the first time, I want it to be a revolver.

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Wait...what?

During my 30 yr. LEO career I had to use my issued revolver more than once to save my hide and it did. I continue to carry a small .38 in retirement and probably always will. A few years before I retired my agency transitioned to the Glock M23, which I still have in the safe. It's accurate & completely reliable, but will never take the place of my .38.

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(#&$^$*@#(!!! Got me again!

Must be getting cold in Wisconsin...

I think modern semi-autos are quite reliable. It is however a fact, they require more maintainace and more training and practice. If someone wants to buy a gun, toss it into a bedside drawer, forget about it for years, then expect it to function properly, (at 0 dark 30) a semi-auto is NOT a good choice.

I've moved in the semi-auto direction. I was always a revolver fan, and after being gunless for some years (out of the country), I was hoping to eventually find an S&W wheelgun. As it turned out, an older Browning Hi-Power fell into my lap. As I've mentioned in other threads, the BHP is about the same size and weight as a three-inch barreled RB K-frame; in other words, it's not too big, not too small, and handles a reasonably powerful cartridge without being too hard on the hands, the ears, or the wallet. I'm very poor and have a hard time getting to a range to shoot. I thought for a long time about trading for a revolver (I have a whole list of S&W's I'd love to play with), but when I finally got to shoot it, I decided it could stay my "one and only". It's not for everybody, I dry-fire and do handling drills with snap caps a lot. But it meets my needs just fine. If my lucky find had been a nice P&R Model 19 (or a Model 10, or a Highway Patrolman, or a ...), that would have been great too!

Many things to consider I suppose.

I shot 20 some PPC matches this summer with a XDm - only issue all year was a bad primer in one of my reloads.
Shot 7 or 8 PPC matches with a 686. again, not a single issue. BUT it needed cleaned every third match. Shooting lead from it, jacketed in the XD. I assume lead accumulation on the forcing cone to be the issue.
I can strip and clean the XD with no tools...the 686 needs tools.
I can reload the XD faster and with a lot more ammo.

I shot an IDPA match with the XD and with an MP9. Had a reload with retention where i didn't seat the mag completely in the MP.

Have 2400 some rounds through the XD to date and had 2 stovepipe on a weak hand shoot shortly after i got the gun - limp wristing probably, no issues since.
Have 300ish through the MP - not a single issue.

The guy next to me at PPC shoots 2 686's (snubby like mine and a 6"). He had issues with the snubby not releasing his cases on reloads. Same ammo as the 6". I tried his ammo in my snubby, no issues. He cleaned it and after 12 rounds started having sticky cases again.

Point being - both are reliable, or as reliable as anything man makes that's properly maintained.

Unless its a kimber of course. One guy has one that's yet to put a full mag though it without a stove pipe - lots of different ammo and shooters and slide springs. Never met a kimber owner yet that hasn't said 'well, after 1500 rounds of break in it's reliable now'.
and 300 maybe in the MP9.

I hope I never have to use any gun to defend myself.
Beyond that; neither needing 7 or more rounds, or a good semi-auto misfiring are all that likely. I think the lack of capacity makes the semi the winner. That is the way I chose.

he is talking about a dud round

My XDm had a couple of loading stovepipes (not sure of the technical name of that). XD(m)s are just tight and need to be broken in.

You may have limped it a bit, but I bet now an identical pansy hold would not result in a failure on your gun.

I still have a 1911 remington rand that has had extendsive work done to it by pachmyer. It hasnt given me problems but I never carried it for protection. I carried revolvers on my job for over 35 years and thats what I am used to. I have owned some good autos, combat commander, smith 39s, browning HP, but I am a revolver man.

I carry tupperware mostly but collect steel. Revolvers are sexy. Everyone should have a fine *** revolver.

I carry my S&W 60... sweet and reliable. I also like my Colt Pony.

I've found this debate always needs a good dose of reality. It's a concern of 'needs' vs. 'wants.'

I always had customized 1911s, and I never had a stoppage. I even carried a nickel-plated 1911 in a Jackass rig in 1979. Then it dawned on me that I'd better be honest with myself.

A battalion of ninja was probably not going to attack me, and I began to doubt if I had to lay down suppressive fire across barricades just getting to a restaurant. In fact, the last year I worked as a bill collector for the hospital I downsized from the 1911 to a Bauer .25 ACP. (below)

The idea of a CCW EDC is safety and security. Yes, I like to play with 1911s, but protecting my wife and I is the true goal when walking around in our personal lives.

I feel confident and protected with J-frame SW revolvers.

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I keep a model 66 in the bed stand and a 37 in my pocket. I too have had revolver fail mostly due to high primers, factory even and debris under the star. I've had more problems with auto loaders though ranging from mags to ammo related problems mainly.
Anything man made is prone to failure but I'll go with mainly revolvers as I've had my best luck with those personally. Probaly having a back up is the safest bet but I seldom do that either.

Self-stuffers need simple maintainance. Get a good quality auto, keep it clean, change the springs when worn, and use quality ammo, it will go every time. Works for me.

Same for revolvers.

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I figure I can carry one of each and the Gods will be happy..

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I carry autos during the day and have a revolver for home use when awake. For sleeping I have a "concealed" Mossberg shotgun. It stands next to the bed with a lamp shade on top. Hold on Mr Bad Guy, let me turn the light on for you!

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