With the standards, 38 spec, 357, 41 mag, 44 spec, 44 mag, 45 ACP/AR and 45 Colt, I usually start with the Keith loads with Bullseye, Unique and 2400. From there I move to HS6, 4227 and H110 if I haven't found a good load with the former. It is really unusual for a Keith load not to shoot...