opinions on the winchester 1897 pump shotgun

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Dear Smith and Wesson Forum i would like to hear some opinions from my fellow forum members about the winchester 1897 pump shotgun. sincerely and respectfully
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Great old shotgun! They are used heavily in SASS and were a real workhorse as a working gun from it's inception. I use my grand dad's old 97 in SASS my self....was made in 1902 I believe.
These used to be all over the place...not so much any more. If you can get your hands on one by all means do so and enjoy the heck out of it!
Randy
 
Great shotguns. One of my favorites. I just shot one of mine, a 1903 mfr, again yesterday at skeet. A weekly endeavor though just for the fun of it.

I lightened the mainspring on mine a bit to make the action easier to work. Well used when I got this one, I've shot 1000's of additional rounds through it on the range. The only part that ever broke was the somewhat fragile ejector.

Some people maintain that the action/bolt will scar the thumb of the shooters hand if not held just right. I've never had that problem. Just handle it like any other shotgun.

Make sure the firing pin disconnect works & the FP is in one piece and not jammed forward. You could have surprise firing upon closing the action.,,and the bolt may not be entirely locked.

Major parts are available at times but pricey. A few changes internally through the years of production so getting correct parts is sometimes a chore. The newest of these will be just over 50 years old,,the oldest over 100.
Solid frame models usually get a few more dollars than the more common take down. 16ga was made also. Both gauges were made with damascus barrels as an option for quite a few years.
Win Model 12 barrels can be fitted. Same thread but you have to use the 97 barrel extension and forend assembly. Not a home workshop project to change out.
 
Wish I had one! Reminds me of crisp May mornings, smell of OFF bug spray, Pink Sno balls, chocolate milk at the farmers store, and being 9 y/o sitting underneath a tree with my Step-Dad hunting squirrels with my little 20ga single shot. He hunted with the '97 Winchester the whole time I was growing up!! That and the Browning Hi-Power he carried as a police officer/investigator were the only guns of his I ever wanted. Memories were awsome!!
Take care and God Bless...H
 
I also use one in SASS. Mine was made in 1931. It is marked modified on a 30 inch barrell, but shoots like a full choke. I have even started taking it out pheasant hunting and squirrel hunting. Its a very nicely designed shotgun.
 
I have my grandpa's old M1897. He asked me one time (probably in 1992) before he passed on if I still had it and if the forearm was still craced. Well, I sure did and had glued up the forearm with Elmer's glue about 1970, when still in high school. The glue is still holding, too! He said it was cracked when he bought is as an old clunker back in 1924!

You know, I can hit better with that M1897 than any other shotgun I've picked up -- full choke, 30" barrel.
 
The 1897 Winchester shotgun is a "great old gun" right up until moment you try reassembling one. That thing makes a Ruger 22 pistol seem downright easy to reassemble. I dont like the jerky action of the 97. My father in law owned one of those and he went to double barrels rather than deal with that 97.

My all time favorite is the Remington 870.
 
Great gun. Not much I can add to all of the comments posted, except for one thing...the 97 has a "quick unload" feature that I have not seen on any other shotgun. It is the fastest, easiest and safest repeating shotgun to unload that was ever made.
There is a Chinese clone that is being imported at a reasonable price, but I have not had the opportunity to handle one.
 
My Dad, who passed in 1994 owned 2 shotguns I am aware of. An H&R single-shot .410 he got as a child and a M97 12 gauge with modified choke. It was the only shotgun I ever saw him hunt with and he was DEADLY on Iowa pheasants. He could thumb back that hammer in a heartbeat and knock 'em down immediately. I never shot it while he was alive but took it out several times before I finally got a pheasant with it. I take it out every year, and I always feel like he's right there with me.
There's just something special about '97s. I've always liked M12s and have 4 of them, but this one will always have a special place in my heart.
Now, if I could only get an original '97 riot gun.......sigh.
 

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