Bass Pro Shops and checking your gun at the door

Poodle Soup · May 21, 2012

NE450No2 said:
Before I moved, the bank I did business with had a sign that stated to the effect that, "Many of our Customers are Legally carrying Concealed Weapons in accordince with State Law.

They has another sign that stated Legally Concealed Handguns Welcome Here.

I have yet to see a business that is for the carrying. When the law passed here in Iowa that made it SHALL issue instead of MAY issue some... people... went around passing out the "No firearms or weapons allowed" signs. Malls and banks are the only ones still up around where I live though.

revolvergeek · May 21, 2012

Florida Guy said:
I shoot at BP almost every week.
They put a lock on each gun at the door which is removed by the range officer upstairs at the range. They also re-install the lock when you are finished shooting which is removed by the guy at the front door.

Our local BP store does this for customers that do not have a CHL. For customers that do have a CHL they want to look at it, then say thanks and send you on your way.

nipster · May 21, 2012

Poodle Soup said:
I have yet to see a business that is for the carrying. When the law passed here in Iowa that made it SHALL issue instead of MAY issue some... people... went around passing out the "No firearms or weapons allowed" signs. Malls and banks are the only ones still up around where I live though.

I dont know that sort of sign in my life. Pretty much EVERY SINGLE gun store and pawn shop around here has signs telling you not to bring loaded weapons into the store, CCP or not.

I think it's ridiculous, but the option is to either not shop at any gun store or deal with their silly restrictions, or just ignore them. I usually just ignore them and carry anyway. Those signs are not legally binding in my state.

CAJUNLAWYER · May 21, 2012

Smith357 said:
Rules to keep your CCW piece concealed are SOP around here. The gun stores don't care if you carry, just keep it concealed. The last thing they need is everyone whipping out their loaded guns and trying out holsters or whipping it out to show off you personal mods, It's called concealed carry for a reason, keep it in your pants please. If I want a holster from a LGS I will use a gun from under the counter to check fit. If I'm at a gunshow I bring the gun I'm trying to fit in a rug with a tie.

Whoa..... a sensible answer!!!! Too many of these and the thread will go to hades

postman93 · May 21, 2012

The Bass Pro Shop in KC and Cabella's have a sign at the front door that says all firearms brought in for gunsmithing, trade in or any other reason must be checked in at the front. It also says "does not apply to concealed carry". Our local Cabella's and Gander Mtn in Wichita has the same sign. Mike

WGSNewnan19 · May 22, 2012

Magster said:
And this is the problem. The gradual erosion of our rights with us getting used to each step.

actually its just the opposite - a reinforcement of private property rights. open your own range then you can decide who carries there and who doesnt.

nipster · May 22, 2012

WGSNewnan19 said:
actually its just the opposite - a reinforcement of private property rights. open your own range then you can decide who carries there and who doesnt.

It's amazing how so many so called "strict constitutionalists" dont truly understand the document, and when and where it applies.

Magster · May 22, 2012

The Constitution as it exists today is not the same one that was presented to us by the Founding Fathers. Political and Corp. agendas have influenced judgments and interpretations of a number of the Articles and Amendments originally written into the Constitution. This must be taken into account when interpreting the meaning of said Articles and Amendments today.

Ltlbear · May 22, 2012

I understand BPS's reason if they have a range upstairs. They or you do not know how competent any one is with a loaded gun. Look at Youtube and get the idea of a lot of people. I do not believe it applies to CHL holders but if you have a license, and are carrying a loaded gun, you should not take it out in public for any reason other than to use it. Not to show it, not to try out a holster, not for any reason other than defense. If you do it could get you in trouble in a lot of states.
Again, they have no idea how safe you or anybody else is with a loaded gun, so their rules are to protect themselves and other customers from some fool who is going to the range and has to walk through the store to get there. I wonder how many loaded guns they find in the range bag or pistol case with this practice and unless all these people have a CHL they are in violation of the state law.
I think it makes sense, just don't ask me to do the same with my carry gun, because I am not even going to tell you I have it unless as required here in TX, they have a 30.06 sign posted and then I am not going in.

Colt357 · May 22, 2012

ccw at Bass Pro in Michigan is ok

The sign by the door explicitly says that the unloaded, inspected, and locked rule does NOT apply to licensed CPL holders.

Colt

nipster · May 23, 2012

Magster said:
The Constitution as it exists today is not the same one that was presented to us by the Founding Fathers. Political and Corp. agendas have influenced judgments and interpretations of a number of the Articles and Amendments originally written into the Constitution. This must be taken into account when interpreting the meaning of said Articles and Amendments today.

The constitution has never applied to what businesses can and cannot do, but what the government can and cannot do. Hence the "Congress shall make no law..."

While I agree with the general premise of the rest of your post.

Donn · May 23, 2012

postman93 said:
The Bass Pro Shop in KC and Cabella's have a sign at the front door that says all firearms brought in for gunsmithing, trade in or any other reason must be checked in at the front. It also says "does not apply to concealed carry". Our local Cabella's and Gander Mtn in Wichita has the same sign. Mike

Same here in SE lower Mich. If you're not going to draw your weapon for any reason, no need to check in.

RobzGuns · May 24, 2012

For Poodle Soup, Nipster and those who haven't seen a pro gun sign on a business... You need to visit Texas!

Here's a sign posted on the door of a bank in Chappell Hill, TX.

There are plenty of businesses who proudly display 'The legal Possession..." type of sign. My LGS has signage that pretty much reads 'If You Carry Concealed, Keep it Concealed'. No bringing it in loaded/ to check holster fit.

OldArcher · May 24, 2012

Uh-huh...

David LaPell said:
I had heard this one today, about a concealed weapon's holder who went into Bass Pro Shops and went looking at holsters. When he asked the clerk at the gun counter about fitting a holster to his carry gun, the clerk told him his gun needed to have a lock put on it at the door. The lock would preclude him from doing anything with the gun, and it also made it impossible for him to check the gun with a holster. The clerk told him he would have to buy the holster, check it outside and if it didn't fit, bring the holster back in for a refund. So I emailed Bass Pro Shops about this, and what I was told was the following.

Dear David,

Thank you for contacting basspro.com. Your business is truly appreciated. Most of our stores do ask that you check and have your weapons secured upon entering a store. If you are wishing to know the guidelines for carrying a firearm into one of our stores you will need to contact the store directly. You can find the contact information for our stores from the link below. Please contact us again if you require further assistance.

This is just another reason I don't do business, even by Internet, with Bass Pro, or other companies that are anti-gun, anti-American...

OA, out...

gejoslin · May 24, 2012

unlawful trespass

nipster said:
Here is the deal, depending on state law, those signs "No Concealed weapons" or "No loaded weapons" are usually not legally binding. They are not in my state either (Florida). You could legally carry, loaded or not if you have a CCP. However, know your laws.

HOWEVER, any store can have their own policy, forbidding you to carry, and if you refuse to abide by their policy, they can have you arrested or at least given a formal trespass warning. Remember, trespassing + having a gun (CCP or not) = an ARMED TRESPASS charge in some states (like mine) which is a felony and you lose your gun rights, ccp and possibly guns.

You are also under no legal requirement to disclose, but if asked to leave / unload, remove your concealed weapon, you MUST comply. Or you face arrest, or if you are lucky, just a tresspass warning.

You need to know your state laws.

I also do not see the logic in gun stores discouraging carry, but it's their store... you need to play by their rules. It could end badly.

Unfortunate but true. One must follow the laws of your state. Or suffer the repercussions. The best option imho is don't shop where they force lawful CHCL permit carriers to disarm themselves. Stand up for your rights! Don't shop there! Vote with your dollars and email their corporate office your opinion. Just my 2 cents

nipster · May 24, 2012

RobzGuns said:
For Poodle Soup, Nipster and those who haven't seen a pro gun sign on a business... You need to visit Texas!

Here's a sign posted on the door of a bank in Chappell Hill, TX.

There are plenty of businesses who proudly display 'The legal Possession..." type of sign. My LGS has signage that pretty much reads 'If You Carry Concealed, Keep it Concealed'. No bringing it in loaded/ to check holster fit.

Not to brag, but you cant even take your piece into a restaurant that serves beer or liquor at all and the "30.06" sign issue. In my state signs like those are not legally binding and the only restriction in regards to places which sell alcohol are you cannot be at "the bar" or in "the bar area", you can be in a restaurant which serves alcohol. Your CWP is $140 for 4 years, ours is $65 for 7 years.

Plus, it's so hot and dry out there.

OFT II · May 25, 2012

Nipster, the laws have been changed a bit here in Texas. You can carry in a restaurant or any business that sells alcohol as long as less than 51% of their income comes from the sale of hooch. You can carry in liquor stores since they don't serve on site. The license is now good for five years.

I do agree with you about it being hot and dry here. I lived in Houston for a while. It is miserably hot and humid down there.

gdauth · May 27, 2012

nipster said:
I am not going to defend stores that have these silly policies, but let me clarify one thing.

The US Constitution does not stop companies from stopping you from doing anything.

The bill of rights to constitution starts with "congress shall make no laws..."

Not "bass pro shops shall make no laws..."

The constitution stops our government from doing things, not individuals or companies. That's why you have no first amendment right to say what you want at work.

Food for thought anyway.

Actually, it is the First Ammendment that starts with "congress shall make no ...".

Here is the second: A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

As you can see, it does not specify Congress shall make no laws. It is silent on who can not infringe on the right. Therefore, I think that the original intent was to bar all governments from infringing on the right. Otherwise it makes no sense to bar the federal government while leaving state and local governments free to infring on the right.

JcMack · Jun 7, 2012

The Cabelas here has much the same policy. Open or concealed carry is O.K., but keep it holstered. I found this out while trying to fit a holster to my gun. There were no signs posted about store policy until after my visit.

speedyquad · Jun 7, 2012

we may not agree with it, buuuuuuuuuuuuttttttttttttttt...wait for it....it is their property. they have the right, public or not, to set the rules for their property. look at it this way, if you invite me on your property for a cook out and i decided i want to go naked, you have the right to ask my naked butt to leave.

Bass Pro Shops and checking your gun at the door

Member

Member

Member

Member

US Veteran

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

US Veteran

US Veteran

Member

Member

Member

US Veteran

Member

Member

Member

Similar threads