Marlin Cowboy 45-70 Rifle

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I hope this won't get me banned from the site. :)

My interests are revolvers and lever actions.

Here is a Marlin 45-70 Cowboy rifle I bought from a private party recently.

JM stamped, 26" barrel, 9 round 45-70 magazine.

I haven't shot it yet. Ordered some factory cowboy load ammo for it as I figured cowboy action loads would be a good way to start getting used to 45-70.

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Cowboy loads are probably a good place to start. That is a light gun for the strength it has and the loads it will handle. I shoot the 405 grain bullet at about 1200 fps, around the original factory load for SASS long range lever action rifle. I first tried that same bullet at about 1500 fps and it gave a jolt. It would be a good load for hunting, but more than needed for what I used it for. They are a fun gun to shoot.
 
I am very fond of my Marlin 1894 Cowboy Competition rifle in .45 Colt and my Henry Big Boy in the same chambering. They are great matches with my S&W 625 Mountain Gun in .45 Colt and my Uberti Cattleman, Colt New Frontier and Ruger New Vacquero revolvers in .45 Colt...As you can tell, I like .45 Colt and revolver/carbine combinations.
 
Anything to reduce the kick of a 45-70 is a good thing at first. Those are some enormous rounds. Two or three of those and I've had enough.
 
45-70 is the smallest of what I'd call "buffalo bore" cartridges. I've never fired one, but a 45-90 or 45-110 would hurt a lot more. I'm sure they are fun, but one or two shots is enough for me.

By the way, this is one of my dream guns:
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Would love to have one in 45-70.
 
I like your tommyhawk.

Thanks :D


I have a business associate from Minot, SD who is extremely good with his hands. Back before WWII he got 'paid' for some mechanics work with what he thought was a double barreled shotgun. Not much of a gun guy but he found out some 60 years later through a friend it was a 45-90 double rifle. He got offered $15k for it but declined, I have no idea what it's actually worth or what it is. I just think 'if that gun could talk!'
 
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As long as you sprinkle a few Smiths in the same photo you don't have to worry about that Banned Thing.



LTC
 
I have a Marlin 1985 Guide Gun, ported 18" barrel, 45-70, topped with a Nikon 3-9 with BDC. It will put three shots in an inch at 100 yds. I've taken a 5 point at 225 yds, an 8 point at 110 yds and a bobcat at 175 yds. All with hand loaded Hornady 350 gr jacketed flat point.

I am confident up to 250 yards with this gun and load. And plan a little shooting this summer up to 350 yards to put it to the long range test.

With this light gun, short shooting sessions are a must.
 
The cowboy 1895 in 45/70 with octagon barrel has been my dream rifle for decades. I been wanting the 1894 cowboy in 44mag and 45long colt too.
 
45-70 Marlins hurt on both ends. I saw a Winchester Jap high wall at Cabelas the other day. Short bbl 45-70 . Must have weighed 3-4 lbs. It was a beauty, no thanks.
 
The buffalo hunters used black powder. The 45-70 with modern powder will equal the 45-120 black powder loads. I use 3031 in my loads. In the Marlin, loads can safely be pushed to near 458 win mag.
 
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I'm with you, but mine is a modern version, a Guide Gun.

I have it set up as a scout rifle.

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6 in the mag, one in the pipe.

Mine is among the very last true Marlins. It's a GBL that I set up with a rail and peep sights like the SBL.
 
Among Marlins, I have Cowboy specials in 45 Long Colt and 44-40 and a 45-70 Guide Gun. I have a Browning 1886 in 45-70 and a New Winchester 86 in 45-90, and a Shiloh Sharps 1874 45-70, plus a 1873 Trapdoor Carbine. For an Accurate and Mild load try some light AA 5744 loads with a 400/405 grain LRNFP soft cast bullet. The first time I saw a guide gun, it was a used pair. Two best friends bought them and a couple boxes of ammo and headed for the range. That afternoon, they sold the guns back; one fired twice and one unfired, the recoil was too much for them. I bought my GG about a year later and the store gave me a 5 rounds of Remington factory 300 grain ammo. That is the only factory 45-70 I have ever shot. It was more mild that a 44 Mag in a Marlin I can tell you that! All I can figure is, If all you ever shot was AR-15's and 22 LR's yes 45-70 has a lot of recoil. If you shot 300 Win Mag or similar, you are in for a treat! However If you want recoil, hand load some 400 grain bullets at 1800 to 2200 fps and shoot them out of a guide gun! My Sharps has never tasted anything but Black Powder (and never will!) Depending on which type of 45-70 you have, they can be loaded from 300 grains at about 800 fps (like 45 Colt) up to 500 grains at 2100 fps (like 458 Win Mag). Perhaps it is the most versatile rifle going. If you are not already a reloader, 45-70 is worth buying all the equipment for! It is an easy round to load and cast for. I have some old commercial and old military 45-70 loads in my collection, that are for Goose Hunting and/or foraging- 3 round balls. You can do anything with a 45-70! Ivan
 

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