Thanks, that's what I'm going to do. Spoke to someone at Talon about the redesign and they will ship out tomorrow.
Maintaining proper grip
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Thanks, that's what I'm going to do. Spoke to someone at Talon about the redesign and they will ship out tomorrow.
Also chele519 read my post up higher with the pics the skateboard tape wont come off. Just make sure you clean very well before you put them on weather you use the talons or make your own. i bought the talons to use as a stencil because they were on sale. but my originals havnt worn or started to peel at all. Best of luck!!
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Thanks I was going to try the skateboard tape but read that it is really rough, for iwb I didn't want something that rough so am going with the rubber grips instead
Good discussion!!
What needs to be said has already been said. Gripping can be standardized for all people but many will have to make minor modifications to accommodate their own hands. I've standardized my personal grip but sometimes revert back to the way I was taught those many years ago. I noticed no difference in my abilities. I guess it's all in how comfortable & stable the grip is at the time. Sometimes it's as simple as "some days I feel like a nut - some days I don't". Whatever works.
What needs to be said has already been said. Gripping can be standardized for all people but many will have to make minor modifications to accommodate their own hands. I've standardized my personal grip but sometimes revert back to the way I was taught those many years ago. I noticed no difference in my abilities. I guess it's all in how comfortable & stable the grip is at the time. Sometimes it's as simple as "some days I feel like a nut - some days I don't". Whatever works.
Ole Joe Clark
Absent Comrade
One thing is for certain, in a gunfight, I'm selecting Jerry Mucilek, Rastoff and Bob O., to be on my side. 
Context is key. Are we discussing merely "shooting" or developing skill at "fighting" with a gun? I'm approaching the issue from the perspective of defense/combat rather than range shooting or sporting competitions. There is a huge difference between them despite the frequently seen statements to the contrary. Everyone must start somewhere and develop base fundamental skills, but I think it prudent to build a foundation using techniques, acquiring skill and from a perspective in line with the ultimate goal.
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/training-for-a-gunfight/
WILSON DEFENSE JOURNAL: Lose of fine motor skill during critical defense incidents- Rob Pincus
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JMichaelTX
Member
I am very interested in not only becoming very proficient in the basics of handgun shooting, but also in combat focus training, which I will need if/when I come under attack.
I particularly liked the How to Train for the Gunfight provided in your first link.
Rastoff
US Veteran
I like your attitude. I wish more had the drive to work out of their comfort zone a little and practice what's needed rather than just what's comfortable.
Even so, especially with barricade shooting, I'd work on what is already working for you first. One hand shooting can be very stable if you use the barricade for support. Yes, I'm using two hands, which demonstrates that it can be done, but you don't have to.
The trick is to just use your normal grip. Rather than step to look out from the barricade, lean. If possible, use a video camera like I did. This will help you critique yourself.
I don't think the two can be separated.
You're on the right path. Keep it up and you'll reach your goal.
JMichaelTX
Member
OK, after some experimentation, here's what I have learned so far (still a work in progress):
- Move back away from the covering wall a bit
- Establish my two-hand grip, but with my arms and gun pointing down
- Move one leg just outside of the cover, but enough to support me when I quickly lean out/in to check for BGs
- Then, when I want to fire, lean out (supported by the leg) the bare minimum necessary, quickly bring my arms/gun up to sight level, activate the laser, aim and fire
Still learning, but I feel much more comfortable now just having a tactic that works for me that I can train to.
Thanks @Rastoff for your positive encouragement.
Rastoff
US Veteran
Try it without putting that leg out there. It's easier than it sounds. I'm no spring chicken anymore and if I can do it, you can do it.
Rastoff
US Veteran
Wait, I just thought of something. Which side are you trying this on? If you're a lefty, like me, it's easier to stay behind the barrier if you're peeking out the left. If you're right handed, it's easier on the right.
I switch hands to make this work for me on either side. This is one more reason to practice, at least a little, with your support hand.
I switch hands to make this work for me on either side. This is one more reason to practice, at least a little, with your support hand.
A proper two handed grip is accomplished with 30% of your dominant hand grip and 70% of your non-dominant hand. Hold easy with the trigger finger hand and clamp down with the other . . .
JMichaelTX
Member
What's the advantage?
Seems to me that by putting my leg just a small distance out gives me better support and balance to handle recoil and rapid fire, without exposing very much.
Rastoff
US Veteran
The advantage is less exposure and quicker target acquisition.
Most who put that foot out for support will step then lean. This takes more time. If you step and lean at the same time, the platform is a tiny bit less stable until you're settled.
Yes, it does give better support, but at the cost of some exposure. This is a decision only you can make. We each have to balance our risk vs reward with each shooting scenario and position. I'm just offering up alternatives.
Don't doubt yourself. I stippled mine and love it. This guy Jerry recommends it. Maybe you have heard of him. He is the World's Fastest Shooter and more...
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChSazF41q-s[/ame]
Thanks for your double service..!
Rastoff
US Veteran
You'll also notice that he doesn't do that.
