Found a like new one at a gun shop for $169. Any ideas one has about Rossi of past was quickly changed upon ownership of this one. An excellant carry piece and well made. Handles .357 very well with 6 shots. Same size class as the Kimber. Could buy 3 new ones for the price of the Kimber. If I want an internal hammer I'll get a S&W 640. At least there are hundreds of aftermarket grips available for it. How many for the Kimber?
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Kimber revolver?
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Found a like new one at a gun shop for $169. Any ideas one has about Rossi of past was quickly changed upon ownership of this one. An excellant carry piece and well made. Handles .357 very well with 6 shots. Same size class as the Kimber. Could buy 3 new ones for the price of the Kimber. If I want an internal hammer I'll get a S&W 640. At least there are hundreds of aftermarket grips available for it. How many for the Kimber?
OLDSTER
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Finally had a chance to "fondle" one at local Scheels store. Pretty nice, but in that price range the S&W 640 would be my choice for sure.
Phish
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I seen one at local shop for around 800. I am not overly impressed and would get another S&W in a heart beat!
I've seen Kimbers at gun shows, I'm not impressed, and at $1000 and up, even less impressed. 
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Yea the 'K' word don't reach that high!
Arik
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They're between $750 and $800 around here
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Boudiepitbull
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One just came up at the top of the list on GunBroker for $799.99. Add to that shipping and FFL fees and you're probably looking at $850-860 by the time you get it in your hand. That's a lot better than the gun show guy asking $1100-1200.
With minimal looking last year I got a pristine used 640 pre-lock for $459 plus $18 shipping and $35-40 in FFL fees which probably came to around $515-520 total.
Full MSRP on a new 640 is around $729. While I might consider a Kimber 1911, rightly or wrongly, Kimber is not a name I've always associated with quality, so in this case I'd stay loyal to the S&W.
With minimal looking last year I got a pristine used 640 pre-lock for $459 plus $18 shipping and $35-40 in FFL fees which probably came to around $515-520 total.
Full MSRP on a new 640 is around $729. While I might consider a Kimber 1911, rightly or wrongly, Kimber is not a name I've always associated with quality, so in this case I'd stay loyal to the S&W.
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brandyspaw
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For the prices of those Kimber revolvers I'd rather shop out another K or L frame snubbie. The older S&W revolvers have much more appeal and value to me than that Kimber.
Of course, all revolvers are now pretty much range toys or collectibles for me as I rarely conceal carry a revolver anymore. I do carry daily but for my CCW I use a small (either Kahr CW9 or a Shield) 9mm pistol.
Of course, all revolvers are now pretty much range toys or collectibles for me as I rarely conceal carry a revolver anymore. I do carry daily but for my CCW I use a small (either Kahr CW9 or a Shield) 9mm pistol.
First of all... let me state that S&W is my favorite brand of revolver and the M&Ps are my favorite polymer pistols and ARs. I purchased a 329PD and 28-2 (nickel) in the past month alone.
I had been looking for a snubbie .357 for CCW and as a fishing/hiking gun (when not in griz country). I finally narrowed my choices down to an LCR, 2" SP101, and 3" 640. I liked the trigger and thinness of the 640 and the stoutness of the SP101. And then I remembered that dealer (Scheel's in Billings, MT) had two K6s' in another display case. I asked to dry fire both and the K6s was the clear winner for me. I took home the one with black grips and 3-dot sights. It was $799. The other one had black sights and blue grips. Dunno why it was more, at $849. The DA trigger is the best stock DA trigger on a revolver that I've ever tried. I took it out to the range this morning and ran a bunch of ammo through it. I used FMJ .38 spcl, and 158 grain .357... and finally tried some 180 grain HSM hardcast "bear load". The latter was snappy... but not as brutal as the 305 grain HSM bear load that I ran through my 329PD afterwards. I love my new K6s and plan to carry it a LOT from now on. I will always have a soft spot for S&W, but I don't see any S&Ws dislodging this Kimber in the forseeable future. I shot the K6s better than my "new" nickel 28-2 even... whether SA or DA on that one. VERY happy with it (as well as my Kimber Micro .380 and Solo 9 that have been my main CCW guns for a while now and replaced my Shield 9).
Btw... let me add that I had ONLY been considering snubbie .357s with SA capabilities... but the Kimber was so impressive that it was able to overcome the DAO limitation. As mentioned above, the K6s also overcame the semi-auto-only policy that have had for daily CCW for many years. I really intend to carry the gun most of the time. My Micro 380 and Kahr CW380 may get chosen occasionally for smallness/lightness.
I had been looking for a snubbie .357 for CCW and as a fishing/hiking gun (when not in griz country). I finally narrowed my choices down to an LCR, 2" SP101, and 3" 640. I liked the trigger and thinness of the 640 and the stoutness of the SP101. And then I remembered that dealer (Scheel's in Billings, MT) had two K6s' in another display case. I asked to dry fire both and the K6s was the clear winner for me. I took home the one with black grips and 3-dot sights. It was $799. The other one had black sights and blue grips. Dunno why it was more, at $849. The DA trigger is the best stock DA trigger on a revolver that I've ever tried. I took it out to the range this morning and ran a bunch of ammo through it. I used FMJ .38 spcl, and 158 grain .357... and finally tried some 180 grain HSM hardcast "bear load". The latter was snappy... but not as brutal as the 305 grain HSM bear load that I ran through my 329PD afterwards. I love my new K6s and plan to carry it a LOT from now on. I will always have a soft spot for S&W, but I don't see any S&Ws dislodging this Kimber in the forseeable future. I shot the K6s better than my "new" nickel 28-2 even... whether SA or DA on that one. VERY happy with it (as well as my Kimber Micro .380 and Solo 9 that have been my main CCW guns for a while now and replaced my Shield 9).
Btw... let me add that I had ONLY been considering snubbie .357s with SA capabilities... but the Kimber was so impressive that it was able to overcome the DAO limitation. As mentioned above, the K6s also overcame the semi-auto-only policy that have had for daily CCW for many years. I really intend to carry the gun most of the time. My Micro 380 and Kahr CW380 may get chosen occasionally for smallness/lightness.
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I posted some photos in this thread http://smith-wessonforum.com/firearms-knives-other-brands/511847-kimber-k6s-357m-snubbie.html
See post 10
See post 10
I have to admit, that I was unaware that Kimber had made it's way into the revolver world until I walked into my LGS. I was so taken by it and it's trigger that I purchased it without hesitation. I was fortunate that it also has a low SN for future collectability. that is just one of the ways I justified the purchase. shoots very well. I have had no problems with function at all. I must admit, the trigger does not compare to my M65, as I am sure that it has had some work done to it The rounded edges are smoothed to perfection and I really like the flat cylinder sides. I too would prefer more stock selections. I may have to send it out to have some made for it. $785. My wife has actually taken this little gem over. She loves it. I am carrying my FDE Honor Defense SS9 again.
The rounded edges are smoothed to perfection and I really like the flat cylinder sides. I too would prefer more stock selections. I may have to send it out to have some made for it. $785. My wife has actually taken this little gem over. She loves it. I am carrying my FDE Honor Defense SS9 again.wingriderz
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The Stats have always stayed the same nantion wide.A civilian using their firearm in a deffensive serino is one to two rounds fired max. Shot Placment is still the right way always.
Arik
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Agreed. But how do you know when you fall within the stats? Shot placement doesn't always do it. Usually but not always. Nothing can count for the human factor. With every stat there is an example where it didn't work. How about the lady in her home (can't say she was in the wrong place) shot an intruder in the face 5 times with a 38. He didn't stop but she was out of ammo. That's all she had, a 5 shot 38. Would one more have helped.....dont know......But it wouldn't have hurt. Lucky for her he changed his mind. Or the off duty cop in La who was shot in the heart and didn't die. Instead killed her attacker. You'd think the heart is a pretty good shot placement but not in this case.
I'm not saying you should walk around with a belt fed, I don't but I don't subscribe to X is enough, especially when in the heat of the moment a shot can miss its intended placement. Most people aren't steely eyed killers able to keep calm and cool under stressful situations. Adrenaline pumps, heart races, hands shake, your mind just wants this to be over. Shot placement only works 100% on paper.
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All very true... but how much is "enough"? By your own words, you never know. That's why it's all a very personal decision regarding one's risk assessment and hassle vs. convenience. I've been carrying semi-autos concealed for many years. I've never even had to pull mine out... despite carrying every single day. I always have my CCW within arm's reach, even while locked in my home with a rather capable defense dog (akita). But I'm getting older, my kids are all nearly grown, and frankly I am willing to risk carrying a six-shooter and a couple of speed-loaders and/or strips.
I also recreate in grizzly bear country and have been comfortable carrying one of my .44 mags for many years -- even though I've always wanted an X-frame. But there's just NO way I'm willing to pack the weight of an X-frame or Ruger Alaskan considering that in 49 years of living and recreating in griz territory of MT and WY... I've never even seen a grizzly in person (outside of Yellowstone or the zoo). So factoring in my risk vs. comfort calculations... I choose the comprimise of 300+ grain .44 mag hardcast. Everyone's obviously got to choose their own level of comfort versus preparedness. Most of the people walking this planet don't even carry so much as a pocket knife to defend themselves with. I've always got one of those in addition to a firearm or two. I'm too old to take my chances with my fists.
Arik
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Whatever is enough. But you'll never hear me say "If required five rounds won't get it done don't expect to accomplish the job with one additional...."
And, if I can get one more round or 20 more rounds into the same package is do that
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So be it. It's your choice. But it still always comes down to the skills/mindset/training of the shooter AND the would-be murderer... and most of all, the luck (good or bad). More firepower increases the defensive shooter's odds. I get it. But I'm comfortable with my odds with a six-shooter right now. When/if the **** hits the fan... then I'll be carrying my full-size M&P9 with extra mags to even the odds, considering the higher threat level. For my quiet life currently... six sounds of .357 is plenty for my peace of mind. Which is what concealed carry is really about for most people.
Arik
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Which is fine. Again I never told anyone what or how much they should carry. In fact it's what I'm arguing against
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I remember reading that the best use of a handgun is to get you to where you have a hicap rifle and as its so much better to use that.
I read that a long time ago and if I had to guess who said it I would think Mr Cooper.
My local carry gun of choice now is a Ruger LCR (5 shot) and I feel quite comfortable with it!
Ashlander
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I bought a K6 today. It fits in one of my Galco J-frame holsters, which says something about it's size. When shooting it I found that the cylinder locks into place quickly about half through the trigger pull, which makes it incredible easy to stage to simulate single action.
I compared it to my Rossi 462. The sight gutter on the Kimber is better and the trigger, since it can be staged, is a big plus. The Kimber is also lighter and can fit into some J-frame holsters.
I compared it to my Rossi 462. The sight gutter on the Kimber is better and the trigger, since it can be staged, is a big plus. The Kimber is also lighter and can fit into some J-frame holsters.
Yup... I've shot and dry-fired the K6s a lot in both staged, and full-pull modes (to simulate a panic'd defensive shooting)... and both feel great and the gun is so well balanced that the muzzle barely moves with the long (but smooth) DA pull.
