Questions about the H&K P7M8

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I have a chance to buy one of these, comes with 2 magazines, original paperwork and case. It is German mfg.
Doesn't appear to be fired a lot. Completed prices on GB are all over the place.
What is a reasonable price to offer? If I don't like it myself I'd like to be able to resell at a profit.
Any particular issues I should look at?
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I own several P7s, but I don't claim to be an expert, and I'm not really "up" on current pricing.

That being said...you may want to determine when it was made. That can play into the value, as some later ones were put together from parts "laying around the factory" (or so I've heard), and may be somewhat looked down upon. Also, does it have import marks? I know some of mine do not, because I brought them back with me from Germany, when I was stationed there. You say it has the original box and paperwork...is the gas scraper tool included? Also, talking about it not having been fired much...one of the places on the P7 series that shows wear quickly, even from just being handled a bit, not even being fired...is the sides of the squeeze cocker. It gets lightly scratched/worn from being activated.

I'm really not up on prices. But, I'd guess they might be bringing $2K fairly easily, in excellent condition in the original box. But...you'd be well advised to get more advice on pricing, than just listening to me!

Good luck! They are *AMAZING* pistols! If you buy it, you will love it!
 
Oh, also...I forgot to mention, some of them develop "plum" colored slides. I don't recall right now the reason, but it's not terribly uncommon. It doesn't hurt them a bit, but some potential buyers may be put off by the coloration, so...just something to consider.
 
I carried an issued P7M8 in plain clothes for about three years in the late 80’s and also went to the HK Armorer’s School when it was in Sterling, VA. A new administration forced us to Sig’s and our buy back for the P7’s was $350. Mine was extremely accurate and fun to shoot. I traded that one off and have had two more over the years. It is a gun that you either love or hate. The squeeze cocking either comes natural or not and many guys I worked with just did not feel comfortable with it. I wish I had kept my last one but I met a guy that insisted I allow him to buy it. I recall I got $1400 for it. As you noted, prices are all over and especially if you price one of the M13’s. The smithing of the P7 is not for the faint of heart and parts will be hard to find.
 
I have one of the "plum" slide pistols and its story was that they were German law enforcement issues that went back to HK for refurb. The bluing was flawed and resulted in the plum coloring. Mine also has a milled blemish on the slide that I was told had the unit marking of the police agency to which it had been issued. All this is second hand.

I will agree that they are amazing bits of engineering and a joy to shoot.

Values are a mystery to me other than that they seem to continually go up.
 
Don't know the value, but I fired one that belonged to a German police officer friend when I was in Kosovo. He went on leave back to Germany & left it with me to "clean." I was on range duty for a week and shot the snot out of it. :D But I cleaned it real good before he got back in-country. I loved the way it shot. It was extremely accurate. I've always wanted one, but never found one at the price I was willing to pay.
 
Right now an H&K P7M8 in the original numbered case with mags, cleaning tools and manual in excellent to like new condition will go for $3000 to $3500. Make sure it is a P7M8 as they are sometimes confused with the PSP. Any deviations from that such as condition or not having the correctly numbered case will have an adverse effect on the price. They are an excellent pistol. Good luck.
 
Gentleman brought the H&K into the pawnshop this afternoon and left it and a Sig P210 for me to make an offer on them. He has sold us other nice handguns but this one is kinda getting in the stratosphere for my knowledge. The more I read the less I feel I know.
Not sure about the mentioned tools, will check on that tomorrow.
Didn't pay real attention to the import marks but I don't think it came to the US as a police surplus.
The devil is in the details!
 
Also, on a personal note, I'm primarily a revolver shooter and almost always shot in single action. Seems most of the semi-auto 9s I have shot have had either very long or heavy trigger pulls, how does the H&K compare and will the different action be hard for me to adjust to?
My thinking is the squeezer will be replacing cocking the hammer on a revolver.
 
You are correct inasmuch as squeezing the cocking lever does cock the striker and the trigger releases the striker much as happens in a single action. It might even technically be single action. Mine has a trigger release as nice as a 1911.
 
Also, on a personal note, I'm primarily a revolver shooter and almost always shot in single action. Seems most of the semi-auto 9s I have shot have had either very long or heavy trigger pulls, how does the H&K compare and will the different action be hard for me to adjust to?
My thinking is the squeezer will be replacing cocking the hammer on a revolver.


Yes, it does. I've never shot one, but I've never heard complaints about the trigger. I still kick myself that I didn't get a PSP from CDNN when they were $800 or less.
 
Also, on a personal note, I'm primarily a revolver shooter and almost always shot in single action. Seems most of the semi-auto 9s I have shot have had either very long or heavy trigger pulls, how does the H&K compare and will the different action be hard for me to adjust to?
My thinking is the squeezer will be replacing cocking the hammer on a revolver.

Yes, the squeeze cocker is the equivalent of cocking the hammer...although it doesn't have a hammer, but a striker.

It takes a fair amount of pressure (I forget the lbs. of force, but it's enough to ensure it's not done accidentally, but not so much as to be at all difficult), but is very easy to hold cocked once achieved. The trigger pull at that point is excellent. (Also, as an aside...if, under stress, one pulls the trigger, and then squeezes the squeeze cocker, the pistol will still discharge. It doesn't matter in what order you do it)

Due to the great trigger, the fixed barrel, and just the fact that it's an H&K...it's phenomenally accurate. It is the finest "duty" (non-match or target grade) semi-auto pistol I've ever fired...the only pistols that I would put in a similar category in terms of duty weapon semi-autos, would be the Walther P-5 and P-88. But since they're both DA/SA...it's probably not an apt comparison.

Wow! A H&K P7M8, *and* a Sig P210? Never had the pleasure of shooting a P-210...but it could still happen!

I had someone else recently tell me that the prices that horsemanhp suggests may be accurate. I was a bit taken aback, and had some difficulty believing that they had increased that dramatically. I did some checking after speaking with this other person...and like you, I found prices all over the place. I would kind of prefer that they weren't quite so valuable...because now I'm looking at the half dozen or so in my safe...one P7M13, in the original box, with only a couple hundred rounds through her, with no import marks...one P7K3, in .380, with only 50 rounds fired, and all original box and accessories, and some assorted M8s and PSPs...and thinking of what I might possibly be able to sell them for, and what I could do with that money! Augghhh! I do have one of those "milled slides" ex-police pistols with logo/emblem removed, that was mentioned earlier...I could always keep it, and enjoy shooting it. Anyway...

Someone mentioned the squeeze cocker action, and how one either loves it or hates it...and I suppose that's true. But, if you end up loving it...it's an amazing pistol, and there's nothing else quite like it. Oh, one other thing...if your style of shooting involves magazine after magazine, of rapid fire...be forewarned that, due to the gas delay system of the P7, the area just above the trigger guard gets quite warm during rapid fire strings...because there is hot gas channeled through that area, delaying the opening of the slide. The PSPs were the biggest offenders, the later M8s and others had a heat shield installed right above the trigger area. It still gets warm. So, some people don't like how warm it gets. I definitely have noted it, but it never bothered me enough to offset how much I love it otherwise. I never did manage to get a P7M10, in .40 S&W, or any P7 in nickel finish. They've always been SOOOO expensive!
 
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The P7s have a cult like following and if the one your talking about is in described condition it's a 2000+ gun.
I had one scratched up to give as a gift to my son last Christmas and would be afraid to put a value on it.
 

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I have one of the "plum" slide pistols and its story was that they were German law enforcement issues that went back to HK for refurb. The bluing was flawed and resulted in the plum coloring. Mine also has a milled blemish on the slide that I was told had the unit marking of the police agency to which it had been issued. All this is second hand.

I will agree that they are amazing bits of engineering and a joy to shoot.

Values are a mystery to me other than that they seem to continually go up.

Back in the '90's I shot a couple of P7-M8's and thought about getting one. Here are a few things I recall about the whole experience.

Like others have said, they're very accurate. The spring tension on the squeeze cocker was light enough that I didn't notice it.

I rented one pistol, and the other one was owned by an LA County Sheriff's Deputy. Both times I fired the guns, (in the summer,) 30 rounds on a LASD qualification and 50 rounds with the range rental, I found the frame got very hot. These were later versions with the plastic heat shield at the top of the trigger guard. No surprise there, it is a gas blow-back design after all.


A used one I looked at had a 1/2" portion on the right side of the slide milled and then the slide was re-blued. I read that police agency markings were milled off the slide before they were resold. The slide was plum colored. (Isn't that a reaction between the bluing and nickel in the steel?)
 
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I carried a P7/M8 as a service weapon for about a year. It was very accurate, super reliable but unusually heavy for such a compact weapon.
 
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