My Midway M1 Carbine....

Xfuzz · Jun 11, 2021

National Postal Meter
Serial number put it 10-11-1943
Type 1 Trigger Housing Type 3 rear sight.
Weird part Marlin barrel no date.

Bore looks good....no markings on the stock.
Needs a good soaking...but all in all

bulletslap · Jun 11, 2021

My old Postal Meter also has a Marlin marked barrel with no date.

AJ · Jun 11, 2021

Xfuzz said:
National Postal Meter
Serial number put it 10-11-1943
Type 1 Trigger Housing Type 3 rear sight.
Weird part Marlin barrel no date.

Bore looks good....no markings on the stock.
Needs a good soaking...but all in all

National Postal Meter used Marlin, IBM and Underwood (Type I)barrels on their earlier production carbines. Later they used Rock-Ola and Buffalo Arms (Type IIB) barrels.

hittman77 · Jun 11, 2021

Very nice!

Reggie TisFree · Jun 11, 2021

Sweet!
I just missed those deals the other day.
I have a nostalgic desire for an M1 .30 cal every since my Pops told me he trained with one in the Army many moons ago.

Do you an idea how often Midway stocks them or another place that sells them reasonable/dependable?

Xfuzz · Jun 11, 2021

Reggie TisFree said:
Sweet!
I just missed those deals the other day.
I have a nostalgic desire for an M1 .30 cal every since my Pops told me he trained with one in the Army many moons ago.

Do you an idea how often Midway stocks them or another place that sells them reasonable/dependable?

Dealers/Distributors will sometime "discover" a load of M1's and
other military firearms from time to time.
Midway just emailed me advising they are going to sell
a load on M1 mags & ammo starting the 15th.

I suspect these mags came with the load they just sold.

s&wchad · Jun 11, 2021

Nice! Any import marks?

Marlin did supply carbine barrels during the war, but some still show up from time to time. If NPM installed it, there should be a punch mark about 6” from the muzzle. That was the way National Postal Meter marked guns after proofing.

Glashaus · Jun 11, 2021

s&wchad said:
Nice! Any import marks?

Marlin did supply carbine barrels during the war, but some still show up from time to time. If NPM installed it, there should be a punch mark about 6” from the muzzle. That was the way National Postal Meter marked guns after proofing.

The Midway M1 Carbines are marked by the importer, PW Arms, Redmond Wa on the underside on the barrel, behind the front sight, not marked as bad as the Blue Sky imports

Xfuzz · Jun 11, 2021

Barrel is stamped with the letter P....about where you described.

terry_tr6 · Jun 11, 2021

got to inspect mine this afternoon but call in was slow so picking up tomorrow. but did quick inspection

Winchester G/VG Stock is in GREAT condition, just a small amount of scratching on the sides of the forearm, 2 rivet handguard, not a fat stock. Oval cut, don't remember high or low wood, but no visible cartouches or proof marks or any other marks on the outside. unsure about the type of wood.

Metal is in great shape, parkerizing looks almost new, but marking are still sharp. flat bolt, push button safety, new style adjustable sights, no bayonet lug. barrel is dark but i can see rifling, muzzle looked OK, no big dings.
Rear sight is lose, with 2 staking marks on each side. Will need re-staked and I will be looking for advice on tightening it. Pix tomorrow! BTW, I am very pleased!

moralem · Jun 11, 2021

I got the NPM one too. No barrel marking other than the import stamp, no other markings on the rifle itself. Stock has a LW in the recess of the butt stock recess for the oiler but that is pretty much it. The serial number is 1525676. So it is probably close to the end of the 1943 run. I suspect it’s a mix master but that is fine. I have wanted one for some time and I am pleased.

I found the P and punch mark I think.

mocha001 · Jun 11, 2021

I was on the list ,then they found out I live behind the iron curtain in ca ,they they won't ship to California

terry_tr6 · Jun 11, 2021

got it and love it

for the price, it would have been nice get a magazine but i guess there are places where a 15 rd magazine is too dangerous for a resident to own
G/VG winchester 1150xxx so late 1942, wood suggests it too.
wood condition great, a hint of a cartouche, metal finish looks new. everything says early winchester, handguard, barrel, receiver, op rod, bolt, barrel band, sight. only trigger housing is inland, but it has a Winchester hammer.

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waffles · Jun 11, 2021

Very, very nice.

Faulkner · Jun 12, 2021

Xfuzz said:
National Postal Meter
Serial number put it 10-11-1943
Type 1 Trigger Housing Type 3 rear sight.
Weird part Marlin barrel no date.

Bore looks good....no markings on the stock.
Needs a good soaking...but all in all

Very nice Xfuzz, that one will clean up nicely.

One of my co-workers also received his carbine from Midway. He brought it to me and we have stripped it down and it's in the soaker tray for a overnight stay to loosen up the built up gunk. We also have stripped the stock back to bare black walnut, and once it's dried overnight we'll steam out the dings and dents and start working on bringing it back to it's full potential.

I'm not one of those who thinks a beat up USGI carbine has character, it's just beat up. They're not that hard to bring back without damaging any provenance.

AJ · Jun 12, 2021

One of the best books for identifying your carbine and the parts in is U>S> M1 CARBINES, WARTIME PRODUCTION by Craig Riesch. It is available from North Cape Publications. I have six or more reference books on M1 Carbines, and this is the one I use the most.

Provence is just about out the window. In all the years I collected carbines I only found three or four that were correct when I found them. Most have been through at least one rebuild and some many rebuilds. If the carbine came from the military and is all correct then it probably is "as manufactured" as military armorers did not care what manufacturers parts they put in, just as long as the weapon works. If it came from a private seller the rifle was possibly cobbled together from scrounged parts. There was a huge market for military issue carbine parts years ago.

LVSteve · Jun 12, 2021

AJ said:
One of the best books for identifying your carbine and the parts in is U>S> M1 CARBINES, WARTIME PRODUCTION by Craig Riesch. It is available from North Cape Publications. I have six or more reference books on M1 Carbines, and this is the one I use the most.

Provence is just about out the window. In all the years I collected carbines I only found three or four that were correct when I found them. Most have been through at least one rebuild and some many rebuilds. If the carbine came from the military and is all correct then it probably is "as manufactured" as military armorers did not care what manufacturers parts they put in, just as long as the weapon works. If it came from a private seller the rifle was possibly cobbled together from scrounged parts. There was a huge market for military issue carbine parts years ago.

Provence is in France, and I cannot see it out of my window.

For me, mixmasters rebuilt that way by the military have as much provenance as a perfect matching factory parts gun. The rebuild is just part of the gun's history.

AJ · Jun 12, 2021

LVSteve said:
Provence is in France, and I cannot see it out of my window.

For me, mixmasters rebuilt that way by the military have as much provenance as a perfect matching factory parts gun. The rebuild is just part of the gun's history.

I understand the way you feel. I used whatever the armorers issued me for 99% of my career in the Corps. "As Issued" to me means just about as much as "As Manufactured" does. However, in dollar value the two are miles apart in value. I have had more Carbines than the law allows and I am down to one nowadays. That one was purchased in the 1960's by my Uncle and my Aunt gave it to me after he passed away. It is a "mixmaster" rebuild, works well.

Enjoy yours. One question: How do you know the provenance is in France?

Muley Gil · Jun 12, 2021

AJ said:
I understand the way you feel. I used whatever the armorers issued me for 99% of my career in the Corps. "As Issued" to me means just about as much as "As Manufactured" does. However, in dollar value the two are miles apart in value. I have had more Carbines than the law allows and I am down to one nowadays. That one was purchased in the 1960's by my Uncle and my Aunt gave it to me after he passed away. It is a "mixmaster" rebuild, works well.

Enjoy yours. One question: How do you know the provenance is in France?

He's talking about the town in France.

Chuck24 · Jun 12, 2021

Many left the factories as mismatched as manufacturers liberally borrowed from each other to keep production going

My Midway M1 Carbine....

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