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AJ
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I may never shoot it or won't shoot it much. It is my Sister's pistol and she lives in SC, I live in Florida.
.429 AE for the Desert Eagle
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Nemo288
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In fact, MR says not to use cast bullets at all in the Desert Eagle.
I can see why after depositing vaporized lead on the outside of my ported revolver's barrel.
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Alk8944
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If you think the .429 DE is a difficult cartridge to load for then you need to find out what is needed to reload for .41 Action Express! It was one of the earliest cartridges to become obsolete nearly before it was even introduced! You need brass, then you make it from .41 Magnum, on a lathe!
venomballistics
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I've run into a related issue recently.
Coated gas check does eliminate the issue however.
Nemo288
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Good to know.
Be interesting to find out if there is a pressure limit to that protection the polymer gives.
Most of my cast bullets are gas checked because I use them in the big 444 as well as revolvers.
But I have only started using the coated ones and only in the specials so far.
Big difference in stress between the 44 revolvers and the 44 DE.
Many rifle folks shooting cast bullets use reduced loads to minimize problems and maximize accuracy.
I shoot full power loads using cast in the 444 but the pressure limit there is around 45kpsi.
The pressure and velocity of the 444 is in the range of the older nitroexpress cartridges.
Be interesting to find out if there is a pressure limit to that protection the polymer gives.
Most of my cast bullets are gas checked because I use them in the big 444 as well as revolvers.
But I have only started using the coated ones and only in the specials so far.
Big difference in stress between the 44 revolvers and the 44 DE.
Many rifle folks shooting cast bullets use reduced loads to minimize problems and maximize accuracy.
I shoot full power loads using cast in the 444 but the pressure limit there is around 45kpsi.
The pressure and velocity of the 444 is in the range of the older nitroexpress cartridges.
venomballistics
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I'm not too sure it has a limit in that regard.
My initial testing was plain based out of a 30-06 in a merciless test string. At least with powder coating, the failures seem to be in terms of accuracy loss. barrels remain clean.
There does seem to be a point where a plain base will create lead vapor, which can deposit in a gas system. the check seems to remedy this. Between the two, we get a fairly generous range of use.
My current application is a full house 350 legend from an AR.
It seems to be giving me the goods as I discover a few pitfalls along the way
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AJ
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You can do whatever you want to the nose of the bullet, It is the base that must be kept intact for accuracy, One of the gun rags had a study on deformation of bullets and the effects on accuracy. That was their findings.
venomballistics
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I would largely agree with this.
I may revisit the Lyman 358311 in this thing with a lighter load.
while it was disappointing in the current objectives, it fed splendidly.
That lead me to the Lee 358-200RF which is a gas check design.
the issue is that the nose is a little hit or miss.
I may need a go no go gauge to sort the bullets with as some hang up on the rifling. which is to say, those that drop smaller likely ride the bore perfectly.
those that function are quite accurate. enough so to make it worth a bit of effort.
So did your sister end up getting a different barrel? Or get into reloading? Ammo availability seems to be better, but I don't see the cost dropping much.
As noted by others here, .429DE brass can be formed easily from .50AE with one pass through a sizing die.
Has anyone seen any published data? About the only info I have seen is some loads from MRI using AA11SF. This seems to work well, but uther options are always good.
As noted by others here, .429DE brass can be formed easily from .50AE with one pass through a sizing die.
Has anyone seen any published data? About the only info I have seen is some loads from MRI using AA11SF. This seems to work well, but uther options are always good.
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AJ
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Don't know what she has done with it. Not a hot priority for her I guess. Has ammo for the .429 so I guess it is a moot point now.
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