The unavoidable gun fight. Are you confident with your handgun choice?

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I can see that I set off a bunch of silly, or maybe not so silly replies. Of course, all of you knew I was referring to situational awareness and staying away from areas that are known to be trouble spots. Every city has those areas and it's just better to find somewhere else to go rather than take your chances in a known bad area.

However, these days with all the wackos running around, there might not actually be a safe places anymore. Lots of people being gunned down in their own homes, shopping malls, schools, churches, places of business and places where alcohol is being served. One of the worst places to go is somewhere that is posted or there are laws prohibiting the carry of firearms. You can rest assured that the wackos will flock to these paces since the chances of anyone shooting back are almost nil.
These places that “prohibit firearms” are just suggestions, unless they have metal detectors at the entrances. I ignore every sign and always carry a gun, because that’s what the criminal would do. The cops won’t be around to save me from harm, so instead of waiting for the 2nd responders to arrive, I’m always gonna be my own 1st responder.
 
Post #20, way, way back has the best summation in response to the original post. Regrettable these threads continue for this length.
There was a moderator over on THR by the name of Art Eatman who used to say that ONCE a discussion gets Beyond four pages all the relevant information has been discussed
 
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These places that “prohibit firearms” are just suggestions, unless they have metal detectors at the entrances. I ignore every sign and always carry a gun, because that’s what the criminal would do. The cops won’t be around to save me from harm, so instead of waiting for the 2nd responders to arrive, I’m always gonna be my own 1st responder.
Well, that is all well and good. However, you might want to check your state and local laws prior to taking such a glib response. In some localities, just the act of carrying a firearm into a place posted, "FIREARMS PROHIBITED," is against the law. You can be arrested for having a firearm on your person or in a purse or handbag in such areas. If caught, you can lose your firearm, concealed carry permit and face a hefty fine or maybe even jail time.
 
There was a moderator over on THR by the name of Art Eatman who used to say that wants a discussion gets Beyond four pages all the relevant information has been discussed
I would guess the relevant information would have been covered in a page or two as in almost all threads, but Art Eatman (have no idea who he is) may be much smarter than I am on the subject.
 
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Well, that is all well and good. However, you might want to check your state and local laws prior to taking such a glib response. In some localities, just the act of carrying a firearm into a place posted, "FIREARMS PROHIBITED," is against the law. You can be arrested for having a firearm on your person or in a purse or handbag in such areas. If caught, you can lose your firearm, concealed carry permit and face a hefty fine or maybe even jail time.
How would anybody know I’m armed since they have no metal detectors or security??? You can store your gun and then “hope” the men with guns will arrive to save you before the “bad people” with guns kill you. I’ll just keep being the unassuming armed guy that nobody is paying attention to. I’ll never be the guy waiting and hoping to be saved.
 
From the thread title - I got - IS YOUR GUN RELIABLE, & IS IT THE RIGHT TOOL FOR THE JOB ?
>I have devised reliability tests, including ability to hurl hollow-points, which my semi autos must pass (or sold ).
>Since I have never needed a firearm YET, what I carry must not to be a burden, & is most frequently a 9x18mm Pistol.
>I'm a senior citizen who knows my abilities & limitations, & have figured out what I'm prepared to do - & how.
>IF I knew I was going in harms way (& couldn't stay at home) - ALL OPTIONS would be on the table.
 

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Interesting thread, especially for me being an Aussie and carrying is not an option here, I haven't read every reply, but i have a few questions and they're pretty general but if you want to satisfy my curiosity or critique my train of thought i appreciate the education, Aus and the USA are very different places despite the maccas and KFC....

So concealed carry, legal where you are (not everywhere i know) but do you have to wear a holster or can you carry in a pocket, handbag etc?
I have seen, on this forum, inside the waist holsters for snubby revolvers etc. but they all seem cumbersome and a quick safe draw might be difficult? especially under pressure?
Would you even try if the villain already has his gun drawn and ready? even if he's pointing it elsewhere?

There is no chance i would pull a gun to defend property, mine or an employers or any one else's, especially if the villain is obviously armed, they can have what they want, it's all replaceable.

Is open carry a thing anywhere? I would think open carry might lead to a larger weapon holstered correctly so therefore easier to access safely and faster?

If i were the customer hiding and was carrying i might definitely be tempted to shoot the villain in the back while he is preoccupied, no problem there, if it ends the threat i wouldn't lose a moments sleep either.

Here in Oz we don't even have castle laws and home invasions do happen, defending yourself in your home can lead to criminal charges, even civil action from the intruder, which is crazy but that's how it is. Having a license and hand guns doesn't allow me to shoot a home invader legally but if the safety my family is at risk the consequences ill be dealt with after, their safety supersedes any law that favours criminals ( And yes, i know by defending my family that makes ME a criminal but by necessity)...
Laws and regulation vary greatly from state to state in the US.
I'm in Wyoming and folks here can carry openly or concealed without a permit as long as they can legally own firearms but next door in Colorado there are a plethora of different state, county, and municipality laws, regulations, and restrictions.
Also unlike Colorado and many other states person to person firearm sales are legal here without involving an FFL.
I had the pleasure of visiting Australia in 2006 and had a great time. Flew into Sydney then took a flight to Perth, great little city, and then rode the Indian Pacific train back to Sydney where I stayed a few days then took another train up to Brisbane and met up with my friends from Maroochydore.
Got three job offers while I was there and even got to talk with an off duty cop in Perth who told me that all the "Voluntary" firearm buy back program of the late 90s accomplished was to disarm honest citizens.
 
Get the radian ramjet for your 365. It’s excellent on that gun. I was surprised how well it worked after my 1st range trip.
We put a Radian Ramjet and Afterburner combo in the grandson's custom Glock and the difference in felt recoil and muzzle jump was amazing.
 
Crap I’m behind the curve, September- November I worry if my 5’2” corner is going to get picked on or if my Mike is going to stuff the A gap. November to February can my team beat the press can we be disciplined to stay in our Zone. February to May it’s hold on for dear life 100 junior track stars 2 new coaches ( if I’m lucky) and me. Summer strength conditioning. Today my thoughts are worms or rooster tails. As stated before I rarely carry due to jobs.
When I worked corrections I found the phrase “ God watches over babies and idiots” my reaction to incidents in facilities. More than once I rushed in to stop fight or to provide emergency medical treatment. Never once waited for backup. Every time I realize afterwards how bad that could have ended. When God says it’s my time to go it’s time to go. No gun extra magazine or Sherman tank is going to change that. That’s the one fight I’m never gonna win
All I can say is ????? This is Over my head….
 
Is that a joke or are such parts with such names real? I've not owned a Glock pistol so am not familiar with after market parts.
It's a barrel and compensator combination made by Radian Weapons for Glock, Sig Sauer, and Shadow pistols but none of the "old" pistols that I shoot.
Along with their recoil rod and tunable spring set they made an amazing difference in felt recoil, muzzle jump, and over all control when shooting the grandson's custom Glock.
Plus, since the compensator clamps instead of screwing onto the barrel they're legal in all states; at least they were the last time I checked.
Unfortunately he hasn't been able to do any shooting since he enlisted in the Air Force about a year and a half ago. :confused:
 

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So you mainly carry Makarovs?
I left a Mogadishu contracting gig a year ago February; there were shootings of and by police at least weekly, often a few daily. The only calibers used by either the Somali Federal Police or al Shabab were varied 9mm Luger pistols, 9mm Makarov, and 7.62 Tokarev, all with ball ammo. There was no difference discernible in effect in any of these (from the police reporting).
 
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Laws and regulation vary greatly from state to state in the US.
I'm in Wyoming and folks here can carry openly or concealed without a permit as long as they can legally own firearms but next door in Colorado there are a plethora of different state, county, and municipality laws, regulations, and restrictions.
Also unlike Colorado and many other states person to person firearm sales are legal here without involving an FFL.
I had the pleasure of visiting Australia in 2006 and had a great time. Flew into Sydney then took a flight to Perth, great little city, and then rode the Indian Pacific train back to Sydney where I stayed a few days then took another train up to Brisbane and met up with my friends from Maroochydore.
Got three job offers while I was there and even got to talk with an off duty cop in Perth who told me that all the "Voluntary" firearm buy back program of the late 90s accomplished was to disarm honest citizens.

When the voluntary buyback was on plumbing conduit sales went through the roof!
 
So you mainly carry Makarovs?
Yes indeed, After a few interesting - but disappointing compacts, that weren't reliable from new. I decided to just buy one of the cheap MAKs legendary for their reliability & accuracy. They fill my carry requirements well, I exercise them but prefer others for long range days. I have improved my 2 Russians, & polish Radom P-64. - to my liking. & Recommend them.
I also enjoy a Zastava M88A compact 9x19 Tokarev, a fun range toy - but slightly larger than my MAKs - It is similar to a Colt Officers pocket .32 in action & size. they are very good buys right now - but need the magazine safety removed to work better. Bulgarian MAKs are the best buys now. Others are more scarce & are now pretty high.
 

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Is that a joke or are such parts with such names real? I've not owned a Glock pistol so am not familiar with after market parts.

Funny I own just two glocks, the littlest one, a 42 and a big ass one the 34. Also attended the Glock police armourers course a couple of years ago. While Ramjets etc. were not specifically named, none Glock parts were addressed. The problem was the high cost civil suites looking to raid Glocks "deep pockets".

The instructor made it clear that if Glock was named in a wrongful death or accidental jury case, their experts would do a complete tear down of said weapon looking for non Glock parts. So they could say on the stand "Yes it looks like a Glock, but it's not a Glock. Look right here, this gun was modified to shoot easily with out of specific parts. Glock would never sell or approve of such modifications".

Whoa, guess who's holding the leaky bag of poop now? This is why I believe there are carry guns and range toys. Never mix the two up.
 
Is that a joke or are such parts with such names real? I've not owned a Glock pistol so am not familiar with after market parts.
That's an actual barrel and compensator that you can buy. The Ramjet being the compensator. I'm not familiar with Radian's products personally.

I modified my Glock, a G40, for hunting purposes. Timney Alpha trigger, KKM barrel, and fiber optic sights (from Dawson). It's an amazing woods gun. Carries extremely well in a chest rig I have from Simply Rugged. It's the only gun I've bought, and put that kind of money into, to make it work for me as effectively as possible.

As long as I know a threat is there soon enough, I can get it into play to save myself in the woods. All I can say is, bears are amazingly silent animals at times. Wolves too.
 
Funny I own just two glocks, the littlest one, a 42 and a big ass one the 34. Also attended the Glock police armourers course a couple of years ago. While Ramjets etc. were not specifically named, none Glock parts were addressed. The problem was the high cost civil suites looking to raid Glocks "deep pockets".

The instructor made it clear that if Glock was named in a wrongful death or accidental jury case, their experts would do a complete tear down of said weapon looking for non Glock parts. So they could say on the stand "Yes it looks like a Glock, but it's not a Glock. Look right here, this gun was modified to shoot easily with out of specific parts. Glock would never sell or approve of such modifications".

Whoa, guess who's holding the leaky bag of poop now? This is why I believe there are carry guns and range toys. Never mix the two up.
To shoot in Glocks GSSF Pro competitions you need to shoot a Glock handgun with only Glock parts, nothing aftermarket. Since most of the so called performance products are internal I believe that there is much going on with the pistols used in these competitions, that can oly be identified by a teardown from a Glock certified Armorer. I have a G19 X, which is all original or with official Glock parts installed to include the trigger assembly. All in all, official Glock parts don't do much to improve the pistol. The only really worthwhile approved accessory is the adjustable rear sight.

While your Glock, like mine may have all original and approved Glock parts installed, if not, "factory original," there are some unscrupulous attorneys out there that would use such changes to confuse a jury of which most probably have no idea about anything pertaining to firearms. Mine, is never a carry gun due to reasoning like that. If it's not good out of the box, then it's not good enough to carry.
 
Obsessing about your collection, keeping it cleaned, polished and maintained. Checking values….collecting and learning how to fix, learning the history and manufacture. That’s great.
Obsessing about which gun you’ll need and how you’re going to use it to defend yourself in a situation which a) very probably won’t ever happen, and b) won’t be anything like you think it might be if it does happen…. It’s a waste of time..
Any gun will be fine as long as it works.
If the guy has his gun trained on someone else, then that is when you can quickly point and shoot. If the guy has his gun trained on you, then probably best not to reach for yours.
Seem about right?
 
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