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I had trouble with the one I had, as well. I have a 21 in .25 ACP and it runs like a champ.
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I had trouble with the one I had, as well. I have a 21 in .25 ACP and it runs like a champ.
Describe the type of jams that you have with the 21A.
Be specific.
Be specific.
Rimfires are not as dependable as Centerfires
Failure To Feed and Failure to Eject with Standard and Hi Speed Ammo.
This is with different Magazines.
Both weapons and Magazines purchased NIB
Texas has very specific regulations for signs posted by businesses if they want to prohibit either open or concealed carry of handguns or both. Signs that don't meet all of these requirements have no legal force. Here are the requirements from the Texas Department of Public Safety website:
"A sign posted under §30.06, Texas Penal Code, must:
Include the following text in English and in Spanish:
"Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun";
Appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
Be displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.
A sign posted under §30.07, Texas Penal Code, must:
Include the following text in English and in Spanish:
"Pursuant to Section 30.07, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with an openly carried handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a handgun that is carried openly";
Appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
Be displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public at each entrance to the property."
Not surprisingly, few businesses in Texas post these, because they don't want to lose business from Texas' 1.7 million holders of a License to Carry, and from who knows how many other Texans who practice permitless carry.
Personally, I pocket carry a very reliable 1.0 M&P 40 compact converted to .357 SIG in a DeSantis Nemesis holster. Odd, I know, but it works for me.
"A sign posted under §30.06, Texas Penal Code, must:
Include the following text in English and in Spanish:
"Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun";
Appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
Be displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.
A sign posted under §30.07, Texas Penal Code, must:
Include the following text in English and in Spanish:
"Pursuant to Section 30.07, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with an openly carried handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a handgun that is carried openly";
Appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
Be displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public at each entrance to the property."
Not surprisingly, few businesses in Texas post these, because they don't want to lose business from Texas' 1.7 million holders of a License to Carry, and from who knows how many other Texans who practice permitless carry.
Personally, I pocket carry a very reliable 1.0 M&P 40 compact converted to .357 SIG in a DeSantis Nemesis holster. Odd, I know, but it works for me.
I've had 2 model 21As and they both had the same problems. What's worse is they don't have an extractor so some of those failures took a punch to remove the spent brass.
UNSATISFACTORY so they went down the road with people who were fully informed, but optimistic. I'd carry a lock blade knife before I carried any of those blow back no extractor pistols. At least you know where you stand with a knife.
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It's not Wyoming making these rules, it's the corporations that own the grocery chains.
The owners of the little independent market where I sometimes buy eggs and other small purchases have no such rules.
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Mine was used, to be fair.
Most common was failure to extract.
It ran better with Mini-Mags than Stingers, I believe due to the case length.
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As a general rule, no one needs to know you are carrying. I have carried a Glock 26, eventually replaced with a 33, in a Kramer pocket holster. It is a good system for most purposes. Pocket carry when driving is ... imperfect.
I carried that platform as a BUG in uniform, originally in an an ankle holster that laced into my boots, then in a holster mounted in the straps of my body armor when I became less flexible.
I carried that platform as a BUG in uniform, originally in an an ankle holster that laced into my boots, then in a holster mounted in the straps of my body armor when I became less flexible.
Some companies have insurance policies that state that no firearms are to be carried on the premises. At the health care facility that I go to, they have a sign at the entrance banning firearms. My healthcare provider, who is a gun guy, told me to ignore it. No offense intended, but I'd rather not carry a firearm than to carry a .22 LR handgun. I wouldn't want to just tick off an attacker even more!
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My Bobcat has been very reliable with MiniMags. For concealability it is hard to beat a 442 or a KAHR CW380 in pocket holsters.
Cheers!
Cheers!
For the Businesses' that prohibited Guns--CCW a hand grenade--Downside it makes a mess of the incident scene.
Many people think the more powerful .22 LR will be better in a small pocket auto than the .22 Short and find out they are wrong. The much longer LR doesn't feed as well as the .22 Short and the model 950 Beretta is very reliable.
If failure to feed, is the bullet nose going up to the top of the
chamber's entrance, and not going in, that might be that the lips
of the magazine, are too wide.
About 15 years ago, I had that discussion with the Smiths and
executives at Beretta.
They said that they would pinch the lips a bit, on future mags.
Look at yours and check that.
Brass not ejecting, is often caused by a slightly dirty chamber.
With the Bobcats in 22LR, if the bullet drops into the chamber,
and when you turn the open barrel down, the round should just
drop out. If not, swab the barrel.
I swab mine every 40 rounds or less.
My boy fired 108, and he nor the smith at a range, could get it cleared.
Phone Dad and they got a lesson.
He knew better but wanted to see how many would lock it up.
My new HS 22LR, locked up after 120 rounds back in '68.
I never have problems with ours, as the mag lips are now correct, and chambers kept clean.
22LR ammo, not going bang, is a different issue.
A constant diet of HV ammo, is not recommended by Beretta, as it will just wear it out faster.
I trust our two, more than the ammo.
S&Walther 380 PPKs and LCP, are carried most often with
what we load.
chamber's entrance, and not going in, that might be that the lips
of the magazine, are too wide.
About 15 years ago, I had that discussion with the Smiths and
executives at Beretta.
They said that they would pinch the lips a bit, on future mags.
Look at yours and check that.
Brass not ejecting, is often caused by a slightly dirty chamber.
With the Bobcats in 22LR, if the bullet drops into the chamber,
and when you turn the open barrel down, the round should just
drop out. If not, swab the barrel.
I swab mine every 40 rounds or less.
My boy fired 108, and he nor the smith at a range, could get it cleared.
Phone Dad and they got a lesson.
He knew better but wanted to see how many would lock it up.
My new HS 22LR, locked up after 120 rounds back in '68.
I never have problems with ours, as the mag lips are now correct, and chambers kept clean.
22LR ammo, not going bang, is a different issue.
A constant diet of HV ammo, is not recommended by Beretta, as it will just wear it out faster.
I trust our two, more than the ammo.
S&Walther 380 PPKs and LCP, are carried most often with
what we load.
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Nice. Not allowed to conceal carry here but fun to shoot. Here is my Zastava M25 .25 ACP. 8 round mag. It's next to Zastava M57 7,62 tok.
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P25 even.
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In Wyoming as long as you can legally own firearms you can carry openly or concealed without any kind of permit or other paperwork though many people still get a CCW so that they can carry concealed in other states.
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Although provided by a law firm, that list is somewhat inaccurate.
Here is the correct information directly from the Florida Government website.
This applies to both licensed and unlicenced individuals who are carrying a concealed firearm since state law makes no distinction.
(Under federal law, the "Gun-Free School Zones Act" (GFSZA) the possesion of a loaded firearm within 1000 feet of a school still requires a firearms licence issued by the state in which that school is located)
Florida Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services
Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services
www.fdacs.gov
Any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05;
Any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station;
Any detention facility, prison, or jail;
Any courthouse;
Any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom;
Any polling place;
Any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district;
Any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof;
Any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms;
Any elementary or secondary school facility or administration building;
Any career center;
Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;
Any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile;
The inside of the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or
Any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.
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DID SOMEONE SAY POCKET PISTOLS ? I like them, & have a few. My favorite carry is a MAKAROV, I have 2 Russians (9x18mm & .380), & smaller Polish P-64 for summer clothes.
A relatively under known & appreciated pocket pistol - I compare to the colt officers.32, Is My Zastava M88A (compact TOKAREV) which is approximate size - BUT LONGER MAGAZINE + 9x19mm They work well once the magazine safety is removed. Surplus ones are selling @ under $300. NOW - until they dry up.
I have put Better sights, & FAB DEFENCE grips on my Russian Makarovs - they feature thumb Mag release & beavertails. The Revolvers are: H&R Defender .38 S&W 5 shot, + 22LR 9 shot.
ALL are keepers & highly recommended.
A relatively under known & appreciated pocket pistol - I compare to the colt officers.32, Is My Zastava M88A (compact TOKAREV) which is approximate size - BUT LONGER MAGAZINE + 9x19mm They work well once the magazine safety is removed. Surplus ones are selling @ under $300. NOW - until they dry up.
I have put Better sights, & FAB DEFENCE grips on my Russian Makarovs - they feature thumb Mag release & beavertails. The Revolvers are: H&R Defender .38 S&W 5 shot, + 22LR 9 shot.
ALL are keepers & highly recommended.
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