FLOCK Cameras All Over

Arik said:
"This is a very unusual circumstance if (the sensors) actually picked up any voices," Barrett said. "In particular, I can't ever remember in the history of our technology the sensors ever hearing a fight or some kind of argument going on."
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Your neighbor's Ring cameras have a better chance of catching your conversation than ShotSpotter does . . .
 
MoGunGuy said:
The flock cameras and the lesser talked about flock drones are just phase one of the total surveillance police state. Next phase is the camera in your car that uses AI to detect if you are impaired or distracted which will work in concert with those kill switches they want to put in every single car. All in the name of "safety" just like The Patriot Act was all for "safety". How long before all the cameras and microphones you allow in your home via phone/tv/computer/tablet/etc. all starts being part of the "flock"? Then we will truly be living in a real world version of 1984. Coming soon predictive crime stopping a la Minority Report. Privacy and freedom will be all but dead by the end of this decade.
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Ford already pretended a program that your car automatically tells police if youre doing something wrong. They even named it ....potentially useful for law enforcement.

Hyundai has made geofencing so that you can block where your teenager can and cant take the car. Hyundai said that they can control it but promise to never ever ever do it......UNLESS....requested by the gov!!!

All cars in 2027 must be able to watch, listen and record the driver at all times for DUI.
 
Hmmm

“Yes, there are Flock cameras in Nevada, with at least 200 located in Clark County and around 180 in Washoe County, among other areas. These cameras are used for tracking license plates and vehicle information”
 
People think that just because there is a public statement of privacy or they're able to access some portion that it automatically true. Remember youre talking about things said and written by lawyers. "We dont listen to you" doesn't mean we dont record everything you say, It only means there is no one actively physically listening at the moment. "We don spy on you" means that you clicked "Accept" to the terms and conditions, were not spying.

Most of the info thats floating around is sold to federal agencies, no warrant required. Or a little more direct, like Pokemon go that was very popular around 2016

Check out a few podcasts with Mike Yeagley where he talks about how buying a few data points he was able to find a secret US military base in Afghanistan and find who sleeps with whom in the State Department through Tinder. And he admits that "we dont know you" is a technicality. All he had to do was look up who works at that office and lives at that address and who that phone number belongs to.

After that look up who invested in Flock. Thiel and Palantir. And what does Palantir do?? And when asked if Palantir was spying on Americans, after some word salad, Karp said...... Would you rather have us spy on you or the Chinese.
 
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Arik said:
Probably but Im not walking directly past my neighbors front door.
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You'd be surprised at the reach. And Flock are generally targeted at high crime areas, not the whole city, so there's that. Better chance of the neighbor than Flock. You're really delusional about this, but I support your misunderstanding.
 
Arik said:
People think that just because there is a public statement of privacy or they're able to access some portion that it automatically true. Remember youre talking about things said and written by lawyers. "We dont listen to you" doesn't mean we dont record everything you say, It only means there is no one actively physically listening at the moment. "We don spy on you" means that you clicked "Accept" to the terms and conditions, were not spying.

Most of the info thats floating around is sold to federal agencies, no warrant required. Or a little more direct, like Pokemon go that was very popular around 2016

Check out a few podcasts with Mike Yeagley where he talks about how buying a few data points he was able to find a secret US military base in Afghanistan and find who sleeps with whom in the State Department through Tinder. And he admits that "we dont know you" is a technicality. All he had to do was look up who works at that office and lives at that address and who that phone number belongs to.

After that look up who invested in Flock. Thiel and Palantir. And what does Palantir do?? And when asked if Palantir was spying on Americans, after some word salad, Karp said...... Would you rather have us spy on you or the Chinese.
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Arik

This is you, right?
 
Point is, even though I have no need of privacy since retirement, I deeply resent the ever growing surveillance state. I am quite shocked by the acceptance, embracement even of most folks. Those that signed the Declaration of Independence would have already handed out torches and pitchforks. Fortunately, those preparing to shear the “flock” have buried them deep in debt and bull**** so they won’t have time to notice. Joe
 
Muss Muggins said:
Arik

This is you, right?
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LOL no. My name is an old nickname I got from my parents as a child. It was the nickname of my moms uncle who died right before I was born. My current location is several hours northwest of Media Pa but what is written on my bio would be an hour north of Media. I was in the northern suburbs, now Im out in the rural countryside
 
Muss Muggins said:
You'd be surprised at the reach. And Flock are generally targeted at high crime areas, not the whole city, so there's that. Better chance of the neighbor than Flock. You're really delusional about this, but I support your misunderstanding.
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They are at every Home Depot and Lowes. Often facing outward to the street. Both say its to prevent crime theft rings, maybe so but thats a side effect. Your license plate is searchable and Lowes uses that for data collection and "share with trusted partners" (sale). Lowes even has a section where you can ask them to give you all the info they have collected on you, even if youve never stepped foot in their store or on their website.

They are popping up all over where I used to live and its far far far from high crime. My township had a murder in 2012. Made big news because it was the first in 30 years. The neighboring township had 2 in one day. It was a family dispute. And there was one "hit" in broad daylight back in 1998 that has never been solved. Thats it. Ive was in that area from 1996 to 2026. Its highly populated, not rural but not a cheap place to live. Bradley Cooper lives about 10 miles away, Pink maybe 3 or 4 miles. M Night Shyamalan was in this area as well. So its not exactly s high crime area.

https://prospect.org/2026/05/21/hom...rveillance-threats-flock-cameras-immigration/

"Flock officials insist that their customers own the data the cameras capture, and that the company does not sell it to third parties. But they don’t bar customers from selling the data themselves, and they give police customers access to a nationwide search. The search ability allows cops to search for practically any reason, legal advocates told the Prospect, sometimes writing “investigation” into the field that requires an explanation. That makes it impossible to audit."

As of last month, cops had used Flock and other ALPR cameras in 16 instances to “keep tabs on their [own] romantic interests, including current partners, exes, and even strangers who unwittingly caught their eye in public,” the Institute for Justice reported. Last year, Texas cops used Flock to search 83,000 cameras nationwide to hunt for a woman they said had performed a self-administered abortion, including in states where abortion is legal, 404 Media reported. In another instance, the same news outlet found that Flock’s sales workers ran a pitch by accessing the company’s cameras in an Atlanta suburb, including “in a children’s gymnastics room, a playground, a school, a Jewish community center, and a pool.”

......"The AFL-CIO Reserve Fund submitted a similar proposal to Lowe’s, which also uses Flock cameras. The group pointed out that Border Patrol officials monitor drivers to identify and detain people whom they deem suspicious, that Homeland Security Adviser Stephen Miller reportedly directed ICE agents to target raids at Home Depot and other stores where day laborers typically gather for hire, and that Border Patrol agents reportedly detained immigrant day laborers at a Lowe’s in New Orleans."

If it only reads license plates then why monitor drivers?
 
Faulkner said:
I'm not defending Flock cameras or AI data centers, but I'm convinced most of the social media hysteria about both of them is being fueled by Chicom bots and Americans are falling for it.
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That is certainly possible but I dont have to look to the other side of the world to believe it, Who remembers in 2014 ish the article that came out about how the gov was actually tracking your every move? Nancy Pelosi had a big speech right away how dont worry we only collect metadata. Well thats the same thing said with a different word. Metadata is everything you did but without a name attached to it, just a phone number. Metadata will give me all your searches, where youve been, when you poop, when you sleep and wake up, if you have any medical conditions, how fast your driving, who youre driving next to, who you talk to every day. Its the equivalent of sitting next to you 24/7
 
There is one universal law with government: if a thing CAN be abused, it WILL be abused.
Consider the Patriot Act. Portions of it were abused to wage lawfare against a POTUS. Who did not see that coming?
Concerning CCTV and such, the question will morph from "Why were you there?" to become "Why weren't you there?" (Think North Korea, China, Iran, etc.)
Big Brother gives a caring, loving death.
 
Bevo84 said:
Cops relied on private cameras to catch a rapist that tried to drown a jogger in a Houston bayou on Monday. He was apprehended the same day.

If you don't want to be seen on camera, stay in your home and keep the windows covered.
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Or better yet, don't do the crime. If you are not a criminal, FLOCK shouldn't bother you. Heck, since being in the military, Government has my fingerprints, DNA and likeness (Picture). Personally I don't care if a FLOCK camera tracks me or my family. Think of the good that could come from it. Let's say your spouse gets carjacked. Hmmmm that never happens EVER! Just saying. Some folks get carried away with things. More important things to get your blood pressure up for.
 
Xfuzz said:
Seems I read a few years back that the big city to the north of me
are installing listening devices though out the city.
Reason....pinpoint random gunfire.
Just nearly all personnel privacy these days are long gone....
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Correct me if I am wrong, but no one is promised privacy in public in regards to video recording. "no reasonable expectation of privacy" or wording to that fact. However, audio recording is strictly regulated by state-specific "one-party" or "all-party" consent laws. In all-party (or two-party) consent states like Maryland, intercepting private conversations requires permission from everyone involved. Too bad, Bmore could use that triangulation for gun fire.
 
Not a fan. I'd rather see more officers and neighborhood presence. The old "beat cop" approach has been very effective in reducing crime and improving department relations.

As far as ring cams, smart phones, and all the rest, those are owned by private citizens and not a government program. People are free (or at least should be) to do as they wish.
 
Navy vet said:
Too bad, Bmore could use that triangulation for gun fire.
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In my ever so humble opinion, they could use arrest, prosecution and severe consequences for the feral population before it even leads to gunfire. I know, never happen, but its fun to dream.
 
An article in today’s news was about how Cambridge, MA, disabled their gunshot detection devices because people complained they were unfairly targeting minority neighborhoods.

Some guy got shot. The shot was undetected, and he died on tne street.

Now they are talking about enabling the devices again.
 
Los Angeles recently announced they are canceling the Flock contract. Rumor is the police department was abusing the system to track girlfriends and others not subject to legal surveillance.
 
James K said:
Los Angeles recently announced they are canceling the Flock contract. Rumor is the police department was abusing the system to track girlfriends and others not subject to legal surveillance.
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If girlfriends and "others" are not subject to legal surveillance, why is everyone else subject to it? And therein lies the issue.
 
Navy vet said:
Or better yet, don't do the crime. If you are not a criminal, FLOCK shouldn't bother you. Heck, since being in the military, Government has my fingerprints, DNA and likeness (Picture). Personally I don't care if a FLOCK camera tracks me or my family. Think of the good that could come from it. Let's say your spouse gets carjacked. Hmmmm that never happens EVER! Just saying. Some folks get carried away with things. More important things to get your blood pressure up for.
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Unless of course you aren’t a criminal and still get Flocked…



https://ij.org/dozens-of-innocent-m...jailed-due-to-ai-license-plate-camera-errors/
 
crstrode said:
The rules are simple.
Violate the law; suffer the penalty.
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Unless you get a liberal judge who lets you out the back door or releases you with no bail. Far too many people aren't held accountable due to political affiliations.
 
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