Anyone have a nice short range load for coyotes with a .357 out to say 50 yards?

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I have two loads for the 357Mag. One is what I give the wife to shoot. It is .5gr under the minimum Speer #8 load for a 158gr LSWC in 357Mag brass. It develops 1280fps from the 6" M586 and 1580fps from her Marlin 1894 Cowboy special.

Recently, I developed a load that I got from Brian Pearce. In one of the Rifle magazines, he did an article on Marlin Rifles, the 1894 to be exact. He developed a bunch of loads but the one I use is his maximum for a 158gr XTP and Lil' Gun.

It pushed that solid HP bullet to 2100fps from her rifle. Puts them into a neat one inch group at 50yards too. If that don't do it for a 'Yote, nothing will!

I shot my last one on the run @ 125yards with a 308, and yes, I had witnesses!

Coyotes are not very large or particularly hard to kill. They have no really large or heavy bones. A fast expanding bullet would be a good choice. In .357, I would lean towards a good 125 grain JHP over a warm charge of W-296.

The yotes I have shot in the last few years were done in by either 45 acp ball or 158 gr LSWC 38 sp +P. These are what I am most accurate with out of my guns, and you do have to hit them to kill them.

Both of these loads are good to 50 yds and then some.

125 gr. JHP over 9.0 gr. Unique, std. primer. Very accurate load in my 586, like 1" at 25 yards just shooting over the knees in a sitting position.

Coyotes are small and pretty flimsily built. you'll need to be able to consistently hit a 6" diameter circle at whatever range you're going to set as your max. I wouldn't be surprised if that 125 gr. would go through one stem to stern.

.22 mag and Hornady .17 even does the number on Coyotes.
The high Country ones fur brought great money at the "fur sales" I attended.
These were all "high altitude" up in the Sierra Nevadas.

A 125 JSP over 15 grains of Alliant 2400 has been really accurate for me and should take care of any coyote. Throws a really nice fireball too!

I am perfectly fine with a good 357mag load for white-tail at ranges of 50yds of less. I know many who agree and have kills to prove it. I haven't had the luck of getting a shot yet. So I would imagine a coyote is a non issue and practically any 357mag load should do the job if your a good shot.

When it comes to handgun hunting, I never understood the desire to use anything bigger than a 44mag for white-tail, but to each their own.

If you can get cast bullets, a gas check 358156 155 grain semi wadcutter bullet over 12.5 grains of 2400 was Skeeter Skelton's load (one of them). It's a good solid load. Personally I have shot 13grs 2400, not much difference. It's good for deer so I imagine it would be no stretch to shoot coyotes.

158gr XTP over a warm charge of H110 is very effective on coyotes . . . IF you don't care about the pelt.

For their 125gn choices, Sierra says 3N38 is the most accurate, 1800fps from a 16-1/2" bbl. Personally, I load 140gn, 158gn, and 180gn with this powder for a 3" L-frame.

I have never got a 'yote with a .357 mag (yet) but 158 gr XTPs with 16 grains of 296 are nearly one hole at 50 yards with my Henry.

I would use at least a 140 gr bullet and up . a max load of IMR 4227 or Accurate #9 would be my choice of powder .
Skeeter Skelton's load using the Lyman 358156 cast bullet ( has 2 crimp grooves) was 13.5 grs of then , Hercules 2400 powder . Using the lower crimp groove he seated the bullet in 38spl brass . I have shot a buzillion of these and yes , they are very very accurate .
BTW , Alliant has NOT changed the burn rate of 2400 . I contacted the company with that question .

Out of my model 94 AE Winchester. hard cast RNFP lead over Unique.

My son shot a coyote at about 60 yards a few months ago with the 4" 66 I gave him and a 173 gr. Keith SWC over a stout but not max load of AA-9. I would have expected that a dog hit with that hard, non-expanding though sharp-shouldered bullet would have run a ways before piling up. 'Yote dropped deader'n easy credit. I have killed another coyote with that same bullet and one feral dog (a pit bull that was running deer on a neighbor's farm). Both were DRN. That said, I'd agree with others that it would seem a lighter, expanding bullet would be the ticket. I like the 140 gr. Speer a lot and would think that'd be a dandy coyote bullet with a mid to upper level powder charge.

Been shooting at and usually hitting coyotes for over 50 years. A big male coyote in this part of the planet will weigh about 30-40 pds and the female 10% smaller. Earlier poster who talked about a 6" circle on hitting a yote has proven to be true for me.

Coyotes are "tough" way beyond their looks or size. They require a solid hit in the vitals to make a clean kill. I remember putting 3 rds of 9mm ball in a coyote at 20 to 40 yards, seeing the bullets impact by puffs of dust and the coyote ran over the hill and got away. Quit packing 9mm until the JHP was introduced to 9mm. Best long range round I ever used on a Coyote was a 100 bullet out of a 25-06.

Any bullets 158gr. or higher is what I been using whatever powder you like. Heck a 180gr. Remington HTP wrecked a whistle pig once and I haven't seen any coyote yet close enough to try the 357 on yet.

I would use a FMJ or cast bullet that was accurate and call it good. They are not hard to kill. But, if they are prime they are worth some money if not badly torn up. I use a 223 with lightly constructed 52gr HP. Usually just a hole going in. But, stuff happens, shot one with a real pointy FMJ and because of the angle it left about a 8" rip.

The OP has been online in the last month or so, perhaps someone can ask him if he has used his .357 on coyotes in the six years since his post.

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I'm assuming you're talking about a rifle load.

My preferred .357 Magnum load in a Rossi 92 rifle is 20.0 gr of Win 296 under a Hornady 125 gr XTP. That's the maximum load in the Hornady 9th Edition manual shot in a Rossi 92, which is a lot stronger than a Henry or 1873.

I get an average velocity of 2210 fps in my 24 inch Model 92 rifle and 2170 fps in my 20 inch Model 92 rifle. The XTP bullets are hard to beat for accuracy and both my rifles produce 2" five shot groups with that load at 100 yards using a Marbles tang sight with Merit #3 or #4 aperture and a Lyman 17AHB front sight.

For a 3" target radius, I zero my Model 92s so that they are 3.0" high at 100 yards. That results in a 155 yd zero, and keeps the bullet within +/-3" of the line of sight all the way out to 180 yards. The MV at 180 yards is still 1370 fps, but it's farther than most folks should be shooting an iron sighted rifle at a coyote.

At 50 yards, that zero leaves the bullet 2 1/4" high at 50 yards, which is pleasantly high enough to prevent you from covering the intended impact point with the front sight.

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If you're talking about a revolver, my preferred load is a 125 gr XTP on top of 8.5 gr of Unique. The maximum load in the Hornady 2nd Edition is 9.4 gr, and while I've shot 9.0 grains I chose to back down to 8.5 grs as the cases start sticking in the chambers above that point, and I prefer them to drop free.

Velocity in revolvers is a little harder to predict as it varies with chamber dimensions and cylinder gap as well as barrel length, but you can count on at least 1200 fps in a 4" or longer barrel with this load.

22mag puts them down fine.

I have shot many, many coyotes over the years. Paid for my first automobile with coyote bounties when I was a teenager.

They are surprisingly quick and agile critters, but they are not very difficult to put down. A solid hit in the front shoulder-heart-lung area will usually drop them on the spot. I've used .22LR, 12-gauge, .30 Carbine, .308, .30-06, .25-06, .243, 9mm, .38 Special, .357 magnum, .45 ACP, and probably a couple more at various times.

Overall, .357 magnum is probably too much gun for coyotes. I'd be surprised if any of the high performance JHP bullets failed to punch straight through with little or no expansion unless striking one of the bigger bones. I know that cast lead bullets from .38 Special (as well as 9mm Winchester Silver Tip hollow points) will completely penetrate, even from end to end, much less a side shot through the body.

If you are shooting coyotes to eradicate a predator problem just about any firearm or load on hand will do the job. If you are hunting for marketable hides you might want to consider one of the super-expanding .22 caliber loads to minimize pelt damage.

Best regards.

Having killed more of them then I can count in 50 years and having shot them with everything in my arsenal, for the last 20 years or so I have gone to .17remington. Pin hole going in nothing coming out and jello in between, best killing round I have found. I find it bucks wind (cause its so damn small and fast) is safe (if you miss it will blow up on a blade of grass and best of all it most times anchors them right where they are. Even running they just pile up. That said I have never had much luck with a handgun as my shots are usually out of that range. I try anyway

I think Elmer Keith must have figured out what worked and didn't work on game. I've seen deer shot with that 173 grain cast SWC (solids not HP's)out of a 357 magnum, drop dead and the damage inside the boiler room was quite impressive.
The old heavy cast Keith SWC may be low tech but I can tell you it works.
Gary

I would run a good 125gr JHP @ 1400fps or so. I doubt any yote walks off after one of those.

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There's a lot of space around a coyote, but if you can hit him, he ain't hard to kill.

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^^^^ What Iggy said
Never got one with a 357 but have gotten quite a few with the 45 auto with my 200 gr SWC load out of my Wilson. Yotes are not hard to dispatch if you can hit 'em. I have shot a couple from my bedroom window early in the morning. Does make my litlle darlin's pea picking heart get going from a sound sleep though. Yep..it ain't a good thing for me!

Any bullet out of a 357 Magnum will do a "Yote" in at 50 yards.....
You just need a round that is accurate from the standing position
unless you are sitting and using a call.

My 686 6" likes the 125gr Xtp with a full load of W231 or CFE pistol at 1220fps +/-.

For longer ranges I do better with a 140gr Xtp with a 98% load of Unique.....
but that is my revolver.

If you miss with the first shot, your chanes go down in a hurry
so make that frirst shot good! (iron sights)

Have fun.

Rule 3;
Ah geeeze.........
I did not notice the 3,151 views. I hate it when I do that.
I am surprised that the "Angel" did not say anything.........
Oh well.

That was close, thought his load didn't work and the yotes got him!

Never did find out if it was a handgun or rifle.

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I've never hunted Coyotes but if you are using a .357 Magnum I'd go with a 158 grain Buffalo Bore Bullet. They are quite reliable, accurate and the most bang you will find when comparing apples to apples.

Well I can tell you that a 125 grain HP .38 Special P+ from a 6" 686 will not kill a coyote at 15 yards if you don't hit it. Don't ask how I know, too embarassing to talk about.

to Nevada Ed
"For longer ranges I do better with a 140gr Xtp with a 98% load of Unique.....
but that is my revolver."

I am looking for some insight with reloading that very bullet.

I have the IMR4227 powder ...any thoughts on how to balance out the conflicting load data for that bullet?

I would think any .38spc load in your .357 would do just fine, but try to find the most accurate load for your revolver.

This thread needs a photo...


This one was 53 yards through both shoulders with a 230 grain JHP in .45 ACP at 850 fps from a 5" 1911. It dropped as if hit by lightning. I have had similar results with a 125 grain JHP at 1150 fps from a 4" M27.

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13.0 grains of 2400 behind any 158 jhp. It works for small whitetail just as well. No matter HOW old the post is!

That is a really good shooting load in my 8 3/8" Model 686. With a red dot off a solid rest, it will shoot a 4" group at 100 yards if I do my part. Not sure it wouldn't shoot smaller out of a Ransom Rest.