Light Primer Hits

[jrplourde]

Does anyone on the forum have some measure or experience with Wolf relative to CCI relative to primer hardness?

Edit 10/19
I'm sure this tread can digress with some very interesting inputs but I still hope can someone can jump in with a relative hardness for Wolf.

So far on 45acp only, I've noted no difference in primer seating. Will see what the others bring.

Bob

[SMSgt]

Not sure what you're asking, but I've used (and still do) CCI, Fed, Win primers interchangibly and have never had light strike issues in any of my guns, be it rifles, pistols and revolvers, or shotguns. I keep hearing about CCI "hard" primers, but my experience has never shown it to exist, or to be a problem if true. In thousands of reloads, I've had a grand total of two (2) dud primers that simply wouldn't work. One was a CCI, the pther I don't recall. I've had more factory duds than reloads.

[Rule3]

I "think" Wolf is about as hard or perhaps a little harder than CCI. I have used thousands of Wolf Small and Large pistol and have no complaints. They are a bit harder when seating. I prefer Winchester for seating primers. But as long as they all go bang I will use any of them. Never have used Federal or Rem Primers.

[GyMac]

Originally Posted by Rule3

I "think" Wolf is about as hard or perhaps a little harder than CCI. I have used thousands of Wolf Small and Large pistol and have no complaints. They are a bit harder when seating. I prefer Winchester for seating primers. But as long as they all go bang I will use any of them. Never have used Federal or Rem Primers.

The fact that Wolf and Tula primers are a tiny bit larger and, therefore, more difficult to seat is an issue for me, especially with certain brands of brass. I've recognized that any problem I have with Tula primers is from incorrect seating and not hardness. I believe the same goes for CCI.

[Rule3]

Originally Posted by GyMac

The fact that Wolf and Tula primers are a tiny bit larger and, therefore, more difficult to seat is an issue for me, especially with certain brands of brass. I've recognized that any problem I have with Tula primers is from incorrect seating and not hardness. I believe the same goes for CCI.

Yes, it certainly could be the size that makes them a bit harder to seat, Once seated correctly they go bang. I seat on the press and can really feel the difference between Wolf/Tula and say Winchester. I really hammer the Wolf in the pockets.

[Aticus]

Originally Posted by SMSgt

Not sure what you're asking, but I've used (and still do) CCI, Fed, Win primers interchangibly and have never had light strike issues in any of my guns, be it rifles, pistols and revolvers, or shotguns. I keep hearing about CCI "hard" primers, but my experience has never shown it to exist, or to be a problem if true. In thousands of reloads, I've had a grand total of two (2) dud primers that simply wouldn't work. One was a CCI, the pther I don't recall. I've had more factory duds than reloads.

Sarge, I don't get involved with reloading stuff on a regular basis 'cause there are so many out there who "know" more than I. I post now to tell you that I've had experience with the harder cup of CCI primers. They ARE harder than Winchester. Let me explain: a couple years ago I had a hammer bobed on a Ruger SP101 and while the gunsmith had it he lightened the trigger pull for me (free). He said it functioned fine. I had trouble with CCI primers but not Winchester. I replaced the main spring with a Wolff 9 lb. and the light strikes got better. When I went to a 10 lb. everything was good again. (That's 2 lbs. under standard I think.)

I've been told that CCI's are harder and Federal are the softest according to the target shooters I know. My experience backs that up.

Pecos

[Jeff423]

I've never had a FTF with any primers, but Wolff are noticeably harder to seat than others. I did have a Federal blow up when seating.

Jeff

[Hammerdown77]

I bought some Tula SPP and LPP when Powder Valley was having their sale. They are basically Wolff primers (made in the same plant, I'm guessing). With the small pistol primers, I get light strikes in my semi-autos. The M&P Pro was the worst, 2 or 3 per magazine. Smith sent me a new striker assembly, but the gun was stolen before I had a chance to try it. My Glock 19, up until this past weekend, fired them without a hitch, then I started getting light strikes with it as well.

No problems in either of those guns with CCI or Winchester primers.

My revolvers pop the Tula SPPs just fine. They work pretty good in my .357 loads. Plenty accurate.

No problems with the Tula LPP. I'd buy them again. Probably not the SPP, though.

[Rule3]

Originally Posted by jrplourde

Does anyone on the forum have some measure or experience with Wolf relative to CCI relative to primer hardness?

Edit 10/19
I'm sure this tread can digress with some very interesting inputs but I still hope can someone can jump in with a relative hardness for Wolf.

So far on 45acp only, I've noted no difference in primer seating. Will see what the others bring.

Bob

As I previously stated I would say they are as hard or a little harder than CCI. Wolf have also made primers with different materials. Some are silver some of brass colored. So, some of the cups where harder than the other within the brand.

If your question is due to light primer strikes (aka fail to ignite) I would bet it is because they are not seated deep enough as their are a bit harder to seat. Other than that, they work fine.

Sometime back there was a few bad lots that did not work well and that was due to the cup material being too hard. Those should be out of circulation by now unless some surfaced at a gun show or something.

If you search, there are many threads on this.