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So there I was, at the bench loading up some new 45 rounds when something just didn't seem right.
The case seems okay
it's sized just fine.
The flare seemed perfect.
the crimp seems right, but when I go to load them into a mag I can only get one to fit, then the mag no longer fits in the 1911.
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heres some pics ... I just can't quite put my finger on the problem here
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Harbor Freight digital calipers, huh?
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Harbor Freight digital calipers, huh?
nay nay ... only the best at my bench ... its Fisher Price or nothing
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priceless...... must have missed the "no photos of boo-boos" page in the loading manual....
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Definitely a lube issue...
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Definitely a lube issue...
Could be, but it has the gas check and lower groove worth.
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priceless...... must have missed the "no photos of boo-boos" page in the loading manual....
It's 500 grains of moose missile.
How can anything so right be wrong?
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Another issue solved by the "plunk" test.
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Have you tried the plunk test?

You may need to trim a little off the case.
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The problem is obvious - your magazine is too short.

Noobs...
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Another issue solved by the "plunk" test.
Makes a pretty good plunk on everything it plinks
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You wildcatters are all alike. Just gotta have just a little something extra, don't ya?
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Probably a Dillon issue. Better call them.
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Obviously a failure of the pistol manufacturer to maintain the proper tolerances. Fortunately we have the internet to straighten em out.
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Some good suggestions but I think everyone is off . . . .

It's pretty obvious that you don't have your seating die adjusted correctly . . . that slug needs to be seated MUCH deeper into the case . . .

and stop using those cheap off brand magazines . . . they always cause problems . . . . :-)
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It's a problem with the frame of the gun. Get out the Dremel tool and get to work.
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I have a closet that shrinks all my pants, shirts and belts.. Did you store the gun and mag in a closet ?
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I was thinking hard what the problem could be until I clicked the pictures
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The problem is obvious - your magazine is too short.

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It's a clip

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I don't see what the camera has to do with it though
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Easy - too much powder - just compress until it fits. Expect a slight leading problem.
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I use the same load. They work fine in my Glock 30. I tried to warn you about seat & crimping in one step, didn't I?


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Can you use a magazine stretcher? I always clamp mine in a vise and stretch them with my hammer and punch.

Caution...when stretched they usually shoot low and left.....

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Either you didn't accept the "SUGGESTED" COAL . . . or you didn't use a Dillon
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Caution...when stretched they usually shoot low and left.....

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I'm not too worried about the low POI, I figure the dwell time in the recoil cycle will overcompensate for the drop.
the left part might take some kentucky windage
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Either you didn't accept the "SUGGESTED" COAL . . . or you didn't use a Dillon
Oh I didn't overlook that
I misplaced my Fisher Price calipers (kinda hard to do since they are bright orange and sings some catchy tune ... stolen perhaps?)
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Oh there it is in fine print on the nose ... "this end toward enemy"
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WOW, someone just broke Rule#4: Never pointed a loaded bullet at yourself
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At this point I'm sure nobody minds
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All you need is the Acme & Co.magazine and frame stretcher.
Insert, a couple of quick turns a walla they now fit.

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Yes it is a length problem! Not the ammo but rather the gun. Short ammo go's into the short gun, pistol or revolver. Long ammo go's into the long gun, such as a rifle. Remember the line from the movie The Survivalist's, short fat ammo, pistol, long skinny ammo, rifle.
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I'm missing something here. I loaded 5 rounds like that the other day in my Judge. They fit fine. ??????????
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Yes it is a length problem! Not the ammo but rather the gun. Short ammo go's into the short gun, pistol or revolver. Long ammo go's into the long gun, such as a rifle. Remember the line from the movie The Survivalist's, short fat ammo, pistol, long skinny ammo, rifle.
then I guess I invented a new type of ammo.
Long fat ammo
McDonnalds ammo
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sure beats the complications arising from unloading five such rounds into your judge
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A band saw is your next re-loading tool !
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Man - you got BIG boolits! That's all I can say......
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That's because casual Friday now includes adult beverages after 1PM!!
That late?
After 1PM is almost into formal consumption.
This is a drink your breakfast kinda thread
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And that's the way we like em
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Some good suggestions but I think everyone is off . . . .

It's pretty obvious that you don't have your seating die adjusted correctly . . . that slug needs to be seated MUCH deeper into the case . . .

and stop using those cheap off brand magazines . . . they always cause problems . . . . :-)
There's nearly a half can of titegroup under there.
I'm cramin all I cram Capitan, she can't take much more of this.
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It's a clip

Noob...

Has anyone called Hornady???
Yup, called them.
They told me it's a medication issue.
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That late?
After 1PM is almost into formal consumption.
This is a drink your breakfast kinda thread
Well duh, you can't drink all day unless you start first thing in the morning.
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Yup, called them.
They told me it's a medication issue.
That's funny. If recent experience has taught us anything, I would have thought Hornady would have indicated that it was an engineering problem.

My apologies to any engineers...
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I have had a somewhat similar problem with some of my reloads.

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