Thank you very much John I guess I have been looking at the wrong prices for some time

oooops.
Fred I always order in bulk unfortunately for me it is always something I can't use those bullets as they have exposed lead base. Well I can't use them in the winter time the indoor range does not allow it. The outdoor range during the summer I may give them a try.
Some have said how will the range master know. Well I know others are doing it and I don't want to add to the extreme cost of replacing 5k range filters more often, which the price only gets past down to me anyways through range fees.
Thanks fellas