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01-11-2012, 06:54 PM
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Hogdon Universal Powder
Does anyone use this powder with good results in 45acp, 45 Colt and / or 38 spl.? I traded for 8#'s of it and need a good accurate load. Mostly for 125 grn 38 spl. and 200 grn 45 acp. Thanks, ken
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01-11-2012, 07:14 PM
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Ive used it in 45 colt and 38 special with good results. It seems to burn a little dirty but shoots good
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01-12-2012, 11:04 AM
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I've used it in 45 colt before, about to try it in 45 ACP and 38 as well. It needs a good crimp in 45 colt, I found if I didn't have a tight crimp I got incomplete burn and dirty chambers along with lower velocities.
Hodgdon has a downloadable handbook, as well as the load data center on their website for you to get the load info for your particular bullet style.
http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp
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01-12-2012, 11:44 AM
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I use it for those 3 and the 9mm too. My two go to powders are Bullseye and Universal Clays.
Universal Clays is a good all around powder. I use it for mid to max loads and Bullseye for low to mid loads.
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01-12-2012, 11:58 AM
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I have sued Hodgdon Universal in 9mm. I prefer Trail Boss for lead bullets in 38 Special and 45 Colt ad a faster burning powder such as WST, American Select, Alliant E3 or Clays in 45 ACP.
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01-12-2012, 11:59 AM
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I've used it for .45 auto, 230 gr FMJ, 6.0 to 6.2 gr. It is very accurate and clean.
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01-12-2012, 12:16 PM
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thanks for the info.
Thanks for the info. I will give it a try in the 2 45 calibers. Ken
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01-12-2012, 04:01 PM
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I use it in .40 S&W and .357 Mag so far, will also be using it in .38 Spl.
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01-12-2012, 06:59 PM
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I've had some good loads from universal clays. That powder seems to do better for me when I use loads at or towards the top end of the published data.
38spl 158g rn 4.2g universal clays
38spl p+ 158g rn 4.7g universal clays
45acp (lee 200g rf bullet) 6.4g universal clays
And yes the 45acp load that I use is 1/10 of a grain over hodgdon's data. I got that load from lee, I figured they ought to know what loads to use with their bullet.
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01-13-2012, 08:33 AM
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I ve replaced Unique with Universal Clays, ive found it burns cleaner and it has outstanding accuracy.
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01-13-2012, 09:52 AM
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In place of "Flaming Dirt" when i can get it
Much cleaner than Unique"Flaming Dirt" Most guys say "So what. You still need to clean your gun" Yes but when you use moon clips in a Smith 25-2 your hands get quite dirty. Proformance wise i see little differance
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01-13-2012, 11:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TSQUARED
I have sued Hodgdon Universal in 9mm. ....
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I'll bet that got their attention!!
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01-13-2012, 04:50 PM
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Like Mule88 implied, Universal is an almost exact replacement for Unique except that it meters better and is somewhat cleaner. Cleanliness is enhanced with close-to-full loads (light loads are very dirty).
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01-13-2012, 09:44 PM
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I love Universal!!! Just shot some .357 Magnum loads I made with it today. I still have the smile on my face and the guns were very clean after shooting.
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01-22-2012, 09:35 AM
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I tried to love universal and never found a place that unique was not better. Yes universal is cleaner but not enough that it mattered. I still had to clean the gun and unique always seemed more forgiving.
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I am using Universal in both 44 special and magnum rounds.
It does burn a lot more cleanly in the higher magnum loads.
It may even be dirtier than Unique in the lower loads but it
sure does handle nice in the powder measure.
No unburned flakes to get in the works either like sometimes
happens with Unique target loads. I have gotten enough unburned
Unique on my sweaty hands during a long range session to get
a minor nitro headache. I have taken to wearing some cheap
weight lifting gloves to make everything more comfortable.
Only the fingers are exposed. I use 'em to ride the motorcycle
in the summer as well
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01-22-2012, 11:14 PM
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New here, but like the company.
I reload quite a bit w Universal and really like it. I load 7.0 gr. behind a 158 gr. cast bullet in .357 and it gives me around 1100 fps.
I don't use Universal in calibers smaller than .357 magnum.
I load 5.6 gr.Universal behind a 230 gr. ball in .45 ACP and find this to be a nice soft shooting load. It is the top load listed in the Hodgdon manual for the 230 gr. bullet. I used to load 6.1 gr. but it became punishing to shoot a lot of rounds. The lower load is accurate and easier on firearm and hand.
An everyday load for me in the .44 magnum is a 250 gr. cast bullet backed by 8.5 gr. of Universal. This load chronos at around 980 fps in my 629. Very pleasant to shoot and you still feel like you are shooting something hotter than a special.
In .44 spcl. I like to load 7.0 gr. Univ. behind a 250 gr. bullet and this load is quite magic to plink with. Depending on barrel length, velocities are between 820 and 870 fps.
I used to load w Unique for midrange loads, but, like others, I also find Universal meters better. It is an economical powder to handload ammunition.
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01-23-2012, 02:06 AM
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I think universal was developer to mimic Unique. Like said above it's cleaner and meters better than Unique and is supposed to produce ammo that's just as accurate.
There are reports Universal can spike pressures so I would be careful up near the top of the pressure range. I gave it a try in the .45 Colt but I couldn't get the accuracy I get with W231 or HS-6. Actually AA#5 even out shoots Universal in the .45 Colt in my experience.
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01-24-2012, 08:52 PM
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My experience is: it replaces Unique, cleaner and just as accurate.
I use it in 38 Spl, 44Spl and 45 Auto.
Good powder!
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