radtuck
Member
I just bought some H110 to try in my new Henry 44 rifle, and my Lyman manual says to use magnum primers...All I have is LPP. Will this work?
-
Forum Update: We've upgraded the software to improve security, performance, and the overall experience.
👉 Read why we made the change | Support the Forum
Large Pistol Primers ok for H110?
- Thread starter radtuck
- Start date
Register to hide this ad
Winchester only makes 1 large pistol primer, so ok if Winchester.
DR505
US Veteran
Yes, I use Winchester WLP primers with H110 with no issue.
Coaltminer
Member
I've used non-magnum primers in both large and small pistol in loads that called for magnum primers. They were fine, I couldn't tell any difference in ignition, your results may vary!
gregintenn
Member
Nemo288
Member
WLP is the hottest LPP and the only recognized substitute for
a magnum primer. I would not use another brand of LPP with
H110.
===
Nemo
a magnum primer. I would not use another brand of LPP with
H110.
===
Nemo
Good Morning and Happy Thanksgiving! I recently learned this myself and will pass it along:
Hodgdon data is available for H110 in rifle applications here:
Cartridge Loads - Hodgdon Reloading Data Center - data.hodgdon.com
For rifle loads they recommend the Remington 2-1/2 Large Pistol Primer. It's not classified as "Magnum" either.
Jboutfishn
Member
There is some discussion in the Speer #13 about magnum primers and ball powder. I played around with magnum and standard primers with my .223 and the chrony with ball powder and could not find any significant difference.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but I used your link to the Hodgdon website and don't see any mention of primer type in their .44 Magnum loads, either rifle or pistol.
buck460XVR
Member
If you go to "Print" it shows the primer used and the test barrel. In a larger capacity case like .44 mag, magnum primers are not always needed for H110/W296 as compared to the smaller capacity .357. If I was using a start load in cold weather, I would for sure.
Jboutfishn
Member
I believe pressure is a serious consideration when determining which primer is to use. An example of this is found in loading the 460 S&W. The book calls for a large rifle primer. I use Federal 209 primers to light this fire.
buck460XVR
Member
Using ball powders that are hard to ignite is the reason for magnum primers. While the use of a magnum primer instead of a standard primer called for in a recipe may increase pressures slightly, unless one is at max already, it really isn't a problem as long as one works their load up safely. Some Magnum powders like 2400 shoot better using standard primers.
Federal 209 primers are for use in shotshells.......not rifles.
Jboutfishn
Member
My bad, Federal 215 primers.
shovelwrench
Member
I have done some reading on .44 Mag and H110 that people get better accuracy with REGULAR primers then with the magnums. I also have seen it to some extent with my own .44 reloads.....
Vulcan Bob
Member
The big reason for a magnum primer with H-110/296 is shooting in very cold weather, the loads have been known to squib with standard primers.
Cal44
Member
The 454 Casull calls for small rifle magnum primers, and I used them for some light loads using H110.
Light loads with H110 are not a good idea.
Had a squib on about the second round.
Bullet lodged in barrel of my FA 83.
Needed to get a wood dowel to push it out.
Dave
Light loads with H110 are not a good idea.
Had a squib on about the second round.
Bullet lodged in barrel of my FA 83.
Needed to get a wood dowel to push it out.
Dave
mark85304
Member
Generate the report, it is on there.
ArchAngelCD
Moderator, SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
H110/W296 is a hard to ignite ball powder and you should use a magnum strength primer whenever possible. Will standard primers work, sure but not nearly as well as magnum primers. (especially in the cold) People on a forum can tell others not to use magnum primers with H110/W296 but it's just not a good idea. HS-7 and HS-6 should also be capped with magnum strength primers.
In the past load manuals with tell you to do so in any cartridge but sadly today they only recommend magnum primers in cartridges with a magnum in the name and standard primers in "standard" cartridges. I'm not sure why they now do this other than saving money not testing both.
In the past load manuals with tell you to do so in any cartridge but sadly today they only recommend magnum primers in cartridges with a magnum in the name and standard primers in "standard" cartridges. I'm not sure why they now do this other than saving money not testing both.
