I just received a new shipment of Winchester Large & Small Pistol Primers that I will be using in my Dillon 650 Press. I have not bought the Winchester brand in some time and more importantly I have not used them in my relatively new 650 yet. I use to have a Square Deal Press and used them with no problems, but have read a few stories of them not feeding smoothly in a 650. I was wondering how much truth there is to this or if anybody here has had any similar issues with new Winchester Sm. & Lg. Pistol Primers.

NOTE: All of the Primers I've used lately have been either Federal, Remington, and OLD Winchesters in the white , orange & red boxes (yes, they are old). Never had a feeding problem in the 650 but want to make sure the NEW Winchester (un-plated) are not a problem.

No worries, Chief. My 650 processes whatever she gets fed. The person who told you this may need to run a bore snake through their primer feed tube now and then?

Blujax01

Thanks! I read some of these on "reviews" of primers and while I have had ZERO feeding issues with my 650, I haven't use NEW Winnys in this particular press yet. I sort of got pissed at them for skimping out on the Nickel plating and was "protesting" in my own way.

They were on sale last week and I bought a bunch for $27/1000 which today seems like a bargain!

Regards,
Chief38

The biggest problem is just getting the primers to feed it.

no problem

Nothing to worry about I have run thousands of the new Winchster and thousands of others including Wolf LPP and not one problem. Come on it's a Dillon. Smooth as butter you get your moneys worth makes reloading fun!!!

I've run over 10,000 through my Dillon 550. Never a problem.

You're correct! I had a Square Deal for 30 years and absolutely hated reloading. I would not go near the press until I literally had no ammo left than would do a marathon weekend and reload a few thousand rounds. Nothing wrong with the SD-B it's just NOT a 650!

Fast forward to last spring when I upgraded to a new 650. Monday evening I loaded up 11 small primer tubes and yesterday loaded up 1,050 .38 specials in 1 hour and 20 minutes without even trying to break any speed records. Not only is that damned thing fast, but I am now making the best quality reloads of my life - and as much as I can't believe I am saying this........ I HAD FUN!!!

Thanks for the Win. primer info guys! I just wish they would go back to Nickel plating them. They look so funky in Nickel cases. I guess these days I SHOULD be less fussy.

Life is hard.

You actually have to load up primer tubes on a Dillon? I would think Smurfs came out at night and did that for you??

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Still Running Against the Wind

The Dillon Smurfs are on strike for $15.00 / hour wages. Since I have refused to pay them that much for loading puny little primers, I need to do it myself....... unless of course I can talk Mrs. Chief38 into it.

I haven't had any problems with Winchester primers. Actually I haven't had any problems with any of the brands I've used other than the problem of finding them for sale but that doesn't seem to be much of a problem recently. I haven't tried Wolf/Tul (must be a hold over from my "cold war" days )

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Minimize the variables

Chief....got 25K Winny LPP's myself yesterday, your Dillon will eat them like a dog eating treats!

G

Winchester's are softer and that makes them one of the easier primers to seat.

Blue smurfs are kinda pricey

I pretty much use Win exclusively for pistol loads and lately CCI for rifle. The only thing I have avoided is Federal primers, based on word of mouth, which are supposed to be soft and have a reputation of going bang in presses and handling. Never had a problem with Federal ammo but I'm a little leery of loading with soft primers.

But I am having troubles with Dillon primers in my Winchester press!!

Randy

I have been loading with Winchester primers for almost 35 years. Feeding has never been a problem. On the W209 shotgun primer, there have been primer cup color changes several times. This has been to designate a change. These changes have never been announced or acknowledged and whatever the change was, it didn't change the performance of the loading data. Back in the 60's and 70's S&W and Fiocchi had a joint venture called Alcan, this company made billions of primers none of which were "Nickeled". My F-I-L has around 1/2 million left. They have never had feeding problems in his Camdex or either of his 2 1050 Dillons. I have a 550B and have been using the newest series of WSP and WLP primers for a couple years, with absolutely no primer feeding problems. A couple of notes on Alcan primers, they run hotter than just about any current standard primer, to the point of a 2/10ths grain reduction in charge on 38 wad-cutter load with Bullseye to maintain the same velocity. And as with any pre 1998 primer they contain a small amount of lead and the EPA says that is a no-no. And lastly they have been one of the most consistent pistol primers ever mass produced. Shooters I know have won 8 individual National Championships and several Team Championships. And 8 shooters I know went NRA Distinguished Marksman on Alcan loaded ammo. Ivan

I have used nothing but CCI primers for my metallic reloading for 40 years mainly because they are always readily available. Interestingly, I have experienced exactly two inert ones in all that time and both were in the last year. That might be attributable to a faster production line in response to today's demand.

They flow right through my 650 but every now and then, for reasons I cannot determine, I find a live one the floor near my loading bench. Fired ones I can understand, as Dillons have a reputation for spitting one out every so often but live ones???

Ed

Blame Clowny Smurf.

He's also the one responsible for losing socks in the dryer and hiding my TV Remote.