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I just bought an 8lb jug of AR-Comp from my local LGS. When I got it home and removed the cap, it appeared not to be sealed. No seal on the mouth of the bottle. I called the LGS and they said all their bottles of Alliant powder were this way. I have never seen this before. I have bottles of Bullseye and Unique on my shelves that have seals and all the bottles I have bought before have had visible seals.

Apparently, Alliant powders are now being delivered to distributors with new seals on the containers. It seems to just be Alliant powders. I called their hq and they said that new seals come up with the cap, but stated they are sealed. I don't see how this is ok when anybody can lift the cap and either put something in or take something out without anybody knowing it. Going forward I'll avoid Alliant powders until this changes back to the way it was. How much money can they be saving?

It's only a matter of time before somebody somewhere reports that this led to something bad and a lawsuit gets started, not to mention the real potential for some sicko to adulterate a bottle of powder.

I urge all reloaders who use Alliant powders to let the company know this is unacceptable
 
Well, for such a minor issue from a standpoint of packaging versus piece of mind why wouldn't they ship a container that has a stout seal?

The pro's and con's of that are pretty one sided all day long...
 
I don't know why they all don't come with that safety ring attached like a soda bottle.
 
Saw your post on the Sig forum I use American select and the last lb I got had the seal in the cap not fixed to the bottle I don't think there is anything to worry about as far as any tampering as most dealers don't allow returns on powders, and certainly they wouldn't jeopardize there reputation, I am sure they know the liability issue involved.
 
Eight pound jugs of Bullseye and Unique that I got in new from the distributor last year both had the seals pushed up into the tops of the lids, not secured to the mouths of the jugs. Maybe an adhesive issue.
Ed
 
NJM15 said:
Saw your post on the Sig forum I use American select and the last lb I got had the seal in the cap not fixed to the bottle I don't think there is anything to worry about as far as any tampering as most dealers don't allow returns on powders, and certainly they wouldn't jeopardize there reputation, I am sure they know the liability issue involved.
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the powder in a lot of the LGS I go into is out on the shelves. Nothing to stop anybody from tampering with them while no one is watching. That's what I'm concerned about.
 
I've noticed, & thought the same thing some time ago. It's hard to believe the way everything else get's sealed tightly that they wouldn't see the value, & security, in doing a better job of it! It should be glued so hard that you have to cut the center out with a knife, leaving no doubt it's been opened. This is one reason I'm leery about buying powder at the gun shows too. Makes no sense.
 
Hodgdon jugs are kind of hit or miss as to whether the seal is attached to the mouth of the jug or not. Guess I have never thought to worry about it.:)
 
A 50 cent bottle of water can have a sealed cap, but a 30 buck bottle of gun powder won't support the cost?

Best,
Rick
 
Sometimes the cardboard or foam disc is on top of the bottle, sometimes it's in the lid. Even when it is on the bottle, there's scant evidence of any adhesive.

I never thought about it before but...

The odds are pretty steep that anyone would do something to mess with powder and I guess I don't have time to worry about it.
 
Any chemical type substance, just as medication, food should have a safety seal on it.

I agree it is probably not high on someones list to tamper with nor is it probably easy to do, but heck these days anything is at risk!
 
I checked 2 1 lb containers of Unique that were unused, 2012 & 2013 vintage both had a seal in the cap and on the container. The 2013 seal on the container was loose on about 1/3 of the circumference. I would volunteer to go check the powder on the shelves in all the stores around here but there is none.
 
It would be good....

It's not a deal breaker, but I'd feel better with a seal and I'm surprised that Alliant eliminated it.
 
Peter M. Eick said:
Water is not giving off solvents when fresh. Maybe the solvents killed the glue.
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The seal on the water bottle is a plastic ring that needs to be broken to remove the cap, at least on some. That way on my Mountain Dew bottles, also.
Seems like a good thing for powder bottles.

Best,
Rick
 
Fishinfool said:
Most manufacturers learned from the Tylenol debacle years ago.

Larry
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I worked for McNeil during both Tylenol crises. Back then it was "Holy $#%^ who would do such a thing?" followed quickly by "Geez, it's so easy why hasn't it happened before?"

30+ years ago methods of sealing (capsules and) containers had to be invented, and were fairly expensive. Now there are a large number of fairly inexpensive, standard solutions to sealing caps . . . though the rest of the container remains vulnerable. There's also more to it than just than a tamper-evident seal - for example, what to do with returns due to broken seals.

Powder manufacturers should re-think how easy an unsealed cap is for an anti-gun group to create a situation that would excuse another tier of regulation on powder shipment, storage, and purchase.

Maybe they are thinking "Who would do such a thing?" lol.
 
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