I appreciate it, Bill but by the time I pay Smilin' Larry's $8 "Shipping and Special Fee" the $14 set of three costs $22.
I can make a ten minute drive to Cabela's and get four (2 sets of 2) for the same money.
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Hornady Lock and Load Bushings for Each Die?
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I appreciate it, Bill but by the time I pay Smilin' Larry's $8 "Shipping and Special Fee" the $14 set of three costs $22.
I can make a ten minute drive to Cabela's and get four (2 sets of 2) for the same money.
smokindog
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The Sarge
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I hear ya. I usually get a bunch of stuff when I do finally place an order with Larry and that makes the shipping fee seem not too bad. Bill
dickttx
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In a single stage, what is the advantage of using the bushing instead of just screwing the die with the preset lock ring into the press?
Steve in Vermont
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For me, convenience. Literally drop it in, 1/4 turn twist, good to go. Same with removal. I've been using dies with bushings for 3 years that are just as accurate as the day they were first adjusted. And the cost is just a couple of bucks per die.
$5 to $6 per die these days. So it adds $15 to $18 to a set of three dies. I find the convenience worth the extra money. And I don't bat an eye at spending $25 for an extra tool head for the Dillon either.
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shil
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"Smilin' Larry"? That's great!
bbqncigars
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I really appreciate the convenience of the LNL bushings when changing over on my AP. For single station presses, I use my Co-Ax. Which changes dies even faster than the bushings (and no changing shell holders/plates).
For what they cost, I can skip the bushings and unscrew my die. Takes about 10 seconds. What are you going to do with the 8 you save with the bushings? And if you lock your die locking ring, the adjustments won't get off. So what's the point of the bushings? Something for the instant gratification generation?
jepp2
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I considered converting to the bushings. But since all my handgun is loaded on Dillon 550's with their own tool heads and all my rifle bullet seating is done on a Co-Axial, I decided not to convert. I always leave my rifle sizing die lock rings loose to I can make the final adjust for the shoulder bump, then tighten the lock ring.
Glad they work so well for so many folks.
Glad they work so well for so many folks.
shil
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The LNL bushings do make die changes quicker and more convenient but if you use a Hornady press that is designed for them, you MUST use them. If you own lots of dies, buying bushings for all of them may get a tad expensive. I have a Hornady progressive, which I like, but I switch to my yeoman 30+ year-old RCBS Rockchucker for small lots of loads for which I don't wish to set up the progressive. Now, the bushings have to be removed from the dies required. I bought bushings for all the die sets I use in my progressive. If I had it to do over again with what I have learned (much from this forum, incidentally), I would seriously consider getting just enough bushings to fill the recesses in the progressive and just screwing and unscrewing the dies as needed.
Moonman
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shil,
If your Rockchucker has a removable threaded bushing, it can be
removed and then Hornady sells a LNL Conversion Bushing $7-$12.
Then your dies with LNL bushings could be swapped onto to that press also.
If your Rockchucker has a removable threaded bushing, it can be
removed and then Hornady sells a LNL Conversion Bushing $7-$12.
Then your dies with LNL bushings could be swapped onto to that press also.
I hear you, but you really have to use them to appreciate what a convenience they are. I'm not sure about instant gratification, but I really like improved designs. These things just make swapping out calibers a snap.
It's kind of like comparing the old car radio that just has a tuning dial, to one that has station pre-set buttons. Only takes a few seconds to spin up the dial to another station number (your die with lock ring method) each time you want to change the channel, but the pre-set buttons are a much better way to do it. With a 5 station progressive press and 10 calibers that I reload, I couldn't go back to the old way; no way. If someone is doing just a couple of calibers with a three die set up, or something, I could maybe see the reluctance; but even then...
I recommend you try them, I bet you'd be convinced!
dickttx
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I understand their use and use them myself on my LnL AP.
However, on a single stage where you load 50, 100, 200 rounds with one die, then change to another die, I don't understand how the few seconds saved on three die changes is significant.
However, on a single stage where you load 50, 100, 200 rounds with one die, then change to another die, I don't understand how the few seconds saved on three die changes is significant.
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I use the bushings and wouldn't be without them. Some others feel the same way, while others find screwing the dies in works for them. We've made a pact regarding this. We'll use what we like and not comment, or criticize, on what each of us likes. Actually that applies to many other things as well, but that's another subject for another day.
smokindog
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I hear you, but you really have to use them to appreciate what a convenience they are. I'm not sure about instant gratification, but I really like improved designs. These things just make swapping out calibers a snap.
It's kind of like comparing the old car radio that just has a tuning dial, to one that has station pre-set buttons. Only takes a few seconds to spin up the dial to another station number (your die with lock ring method) each time you want to change the channel, but the pre-set buttons are a much better way to do it. With a 5 station progressive press and 10 calibers that I reload, I couldn't go back to the old way; no way. If someone is doing just a couple of calibers with a three die set up, or something, I could maybe see the reluctance; but even then...
I recommend you try them, I bet you'd be convinced!
Maybe it's just me, but I never realized swapping out a screw-in die wasn't a snap. I'm old and set in my ways and I'm not going to change--you can't make me!
Moonman
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