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06-05-2014, 12:25 PM
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Segregate 1911 and Glock fired Brass?
I've often read that Glock chambers are overly enlarged to accommodate all types of manufacturers cartridges.
Would it be a prudent move to deliberately set aside brass for firing exclusively in my Kimber 1911 45 ACP and brass I"ll be using in a Glock 30S I'm thinking about purchasing?
What's the true story?
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06-05-2014, 12:30 PM
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No. Not for .45.
If you pick up brass from a USPSA match, you may get some .45 brass that was shot in loose chambered race guns. Usually it sizes OK, but some of it is past using.
.40 S&W brass is a different story. The head can be expanded in various guns past the point that a regular die will restore it to spec.
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Brass resizing
Can this brass be salvaged?
I am assuming this is a problem with Glocks.
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Usually. Need a push-through die or a roll sizer.
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Lee Factory Carbide Crimp Die solves this problem for about $12. I have one for each handgun caliber I reload, 38/357 use the same die just like 10 MM/40 S&W.
EDIT: I use the Lee FCCD with RCBS reloading dies. The RCBS sizer die is carbide so I don't have to lube cases. All my 40 S&W and 9 MM brass came out of Glocks fired at a police range or indoor range.
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Lee Factory Carbide Crimp Die solves this problem for about $12. I have one for each handgun caliber I reload, 38/357 use the same die just like 10 MM/40 S&W.
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I would just like to point out that you have to have the lee FCD and another "kit" to make it push thru. I have the push thru "kit" and use it on my 45acp, 40sw and 9mm lee FCD dies (you only need one kit for all). Older glocks (g1 &g2) got the glock bulge not so much the G3 and G4's. I have a Glock 23-2 and it has the bulge. since i reload it put a lone wolfe barrel on it to shoot lead and not have to worry about how many times i resize the brass with the push thru die.
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Would it be a prudent move to deliberately set aside brass for firing exclusively in my Kimber 1911 45 ACP and brass I"ll be using in a Glock 30S I'm thinking about purchasing?
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It's unnecessary. Glock .45s are fine on brass.
I have Glock .40s and use a push-through die, but I wouldn't if I was using .45. Besides, .45 is about half the pressure!
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The .45 ACP maximum average pressure is just 21K CUP. This is rather low by industry standards and suggests that you are perfectly safe to use once-fired .45 ACP brass in ANY pistol.
Granted Glocks tend to produce a "bulge" where the case web lies over the feed ramp scallop, and truly HIGH pressure cartridges such as the .40 S&W and 10mm will often cause a prominent bulge, this is NOT common with a standard pressure .45 ACP.
Bear in mind the .45 ACP round was developed to reliably function with the 1911 platform way back in 1905. It is NOT a "high pressure" cartridge outside of any street mis-perception. The U.S. Army always "derates" its equipment, so the mil-spec .45 ACP loading is a mere 350 lb-ft of kinetic energy - pretty decent delivered energy based upon the original specifications, but the point is, a standard ACP loading simply will not "over stress" any modern .45 ACP brass.
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As others said, unnecessary, especially for your 45s. Once you deprime/size the brass it will all largely be the same.
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Years ago when I had a GLOCK 30 in addition to several .45 1911s, I bought the Lee "Bulge Buster".
Totally unnecessary in .45.
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Originally Posted by M&PUSER
I've often read that Glock chambers are overly enlarged to accommodate all types of manufacturers cartridges.
Would it be a prudent move to deliberately set aside brass for firing exclusively in my Kimber 1911 45 ACP and brass I"ll be using in a Glock 30S I'm thinking about purchasing?
What's the true story?
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At factory pressures, not an issue IMO. I shoot range pickups all the time, even in my barsto match bbl 1911. The low pressures of the 45acp is pretty easy on brass.
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I've often read that Glock chambers are overly enlarged to accommodate all types of manufacturers cartridges.
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Yes, they are "slightly" larger, but not so to accommodate different brands--which should be meeting SAMI specs. They are enlarged to ensure feeding.
I have bags of range brass in several calibers, much I know was fired in Glocks, and I've yet to see any bulging different from any other firearm brand.
Years ago--keep in mind that event years ago remain as posted today on the internet--early Glocks in .40 had a support problem, but that issue was resolved long ago. I've reloaded .40s for my son, full length resized only, never yet used a FCD or push-thru, and all worked fine.
And I never separate brass.
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