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For those of you with two presses!
I found an incredible price locally for another NIB Hornady LNL and just had to make the impulse buy. I'm going to leave one large primer and one small.
I load 9, 40, 45, 45C, and .223/5.56.
My question is about where to mount the new machine. If you look at the picture, my current LNL is bolted to the table on the far right. I'd prefer to work around the current setup so I don't start putting extra unnecessary holes in my work tables. The tables are 6 ft wide. The workbench on the far left with the peg board is 4 foot.
I like having the long open space along the wall on the left created from the workbench and the one table for working on things. I am considering putting the new press to the left of the current one.
Any advice on needed spacing from the existing press and also from the corner? I'm thinking about 2 feet from the inside corner which will leave about 3 feet between the presses and keep both the presses mounted to a single table.
Looking for ideas!!!!
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Holes can be filled. Place it here it works for you. I hav a 10' bench. I have a ss, 550 & 650 perm mounted along with a vise on the end. It can get crowded but is what it is.
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I have a fairly short bench (3.5 ft) and I have a single stage rock chucker on one end and my Dillion 550 on the opposite side. Go with what works for your current set up.
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When I had 2 progressive presses, I kept them as far apart as practical, that way their projects would not interfere with each other. I do like a little room on both sides of each press, So I avoid mounting right at the corner. Ivan
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Hate to mention this, but having a Television near a reloading bench would be a big distraction to me. I am 67 and I guess I can't multi-task as well as I used to but now I feel it is important to concentrate solely on reloading. You certainly have a very nice reloading bench with lots of space. Enjoy.
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What Steve just said. The only reloading thing I can manage is hand priming cases while watching TV.
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How about a quick swap mount system? I know the LNL, would be a hefty items to move on and off, but perhaps an option for you.
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I have three feet between mine and it's plenty. Your results may vary. Only one of mine is a LNL, kudos on your purchase.
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I have 3 presses.
1 Redding turret(where your Hornady is), on one end, A Dillon 550 on the other end(i would split the tables apart, where there is walk room between them(where your laptop sits). My Dillon, and LNL are both on strong mounts, that way the bolt holes line up, and I can just take one off, and put the other on.
I think you need about 3-4ft apart to be comfy
Its messy, I just got through putting up the cabinets.
My LNL, or Dillon would be about where the little white towel is, on the bench.
If you cant pull the tables apart, MY choice would be to put it where your laptop sits, on the other table.
Put it on Strong mounts, and pull it off, when not in use
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Consider a Quick Change Mount System from Inline Fabrication. Don't know what mount you are currently using, but . . .
One idea would be to mount your current press where it is on a QC mount, and hang your other press anywhere else, out of the way, like off the right end of your bench behind your current press, on a Double Storage Plate.
When it is time to use Press_B, move Press_A to the shelf, and move Press_B into place. Would take exactly 1 minute Well, that's what it takes me lol.
If it works for you, nothing changes on your bench, your "desk" area stays clean, and you may find it useful to mount other tools in the same way. Dan has plates for a lot of stuff, and (eg) made me a huge 2' long custom plate with an adjustable foot for an RCBS Universal Case Prep Center for like $45.
Just a thought
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I would put the presses as close together as you feel comfortable. There is a lot of common equipment e.g. wrenches, lights, screwdrivers, etc that you will share between the presses. Unfortunately your first press is all the way to the right that gives no space to the right of the press, but I would consider having them around 2 feet apart. Maybe 18" including all extensions and bins.
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My workbench serves my reloading, model railroading, guitar building and home maintenance activities. As a result, space is at a premium and I've mounted both a Dillon 550 and an RCBS Rockchucker about a foot apart. This may seem close but it has never presented a problem.
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Plenty of elbow room
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My reloading bench is 6'x18"with cabinets on both end. I had a Dillon 550 on one end and a RCBS on the other. A year or so ago I added another 550. It works out OK, about 18" to 20" between the presses. But wish I had a bit more room between the presses.
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Like this. Seems to work well for me. Same as you, one small, one large primer setup.
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Just bolt the presses to a piece of 1 in oak stair tread and then clamp them when needed to the bench. Mount presses to the stair tread with carriage bolts from the bottom up counter bored enough to leave the board face flat and the nuts and washers up on the press side. I have all my bench equipment set up this way and is very convenient. Machines stored completely out of the way when not in use and cheap to do.
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I also like a lot of space around my presses. When I built my new condo 10 years ago I built the loading room from scratch. I like my single stage (turret press) as my load development tool and I do most of my rifle ammo also on it, with the trimmer and case prep machine just to the right, and the powder measure permanently mounted on the left. You can see the edge of my 550 off on the left around the turn of the corner.
Then on the other bench I have my 550 and my Mec 9000 shotgun loader.
Then on the other side I have my cleaning/work bench. I make use of several old carpet samples which are great for keeping the guns from getting scratched, or parts from bouncing and rolling around.
I've got about 3 ft between each of the loaders.
The back wall has gun case storage, then the room behind the trophies is my walk in 4'X7' gun vault. The trophies represent days gone by when I could actually keep all my rounds in the center of the target.
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me thinks you guys are just showing off
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Naw,
If I was showing off, I would have posted all my new cabinets..very proud of em.
Since you brought it up.
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Thought I'd show you what the Inline Fabrication Quick Change mounts allow. I chose the flush mount, but there are a couple of raised mounts as well.
First photo shows my 6'x30" bench with an RCBS Priming Tool "installed" on the bench . . . second photo shows a close-up of the two presses (Hornady Single Stage and LnL AP with case feeder) in the "stand-by" rack.
With all tools stored the benchtop is totally open for cleaning rifles or whatever.
The first photo also gives a peek at a couple more tools . . . a vise and Hornady Concentricity tool installed in a second storage rack on the wheeled cabinet (far left), and the RCBS Universal Case Prep "monster" stored in this moment on the benchtop.
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I went to the sight and bought a mount and quick change plate and the neatest LED light that fits in the center hole of my Dillion. There is a bunch of neat stuff just couldn't afford it all after ordering a chrono first.
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I use a lot of inline stuff. It is good stuff.
I use the hole light, and I also run one of their lightstrips up the side. That way it is super bright.
I bought two sets, that way all I have to do is unplug the LNL, and plug in the Dillon.
They have a two way pickup that fit both.
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Can't wait to get my stuff. Going to put a new surface on the bench top today my friend built my bench for me and cracks has opened up between the planks so powder fall through. Don't ask what powder is doing on my bench top. Well when you miss the forward stroke on the Dillion the lack of a primer lets powder fall out. Hey I am old can't remember everything.
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An inexpensive method to cover the bench top, what I used was 1/4" Masonite board, and put a couple coats of clear epoxy finish on it. It has lasted well.
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Looks like a good spot to put the new press. But the only thing out of place in that room is the beer on the far left of the picture it needs to be in your hand it looks like it getting warm just sitting there!!
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I just spent an hour or so doing some "heavy engineering" and I've decided to go look for some "channel track" to embed in a routed out groove in the table so the presses can be slid left and right. I'll also be able to firm up my Case Prep center when I use it.
I've found some aluminum channel online but I'm pretty sure I ought to be able to find steel.
This is what I'm thinking - aluminum mounting channel only for me120 edge 5' length
EDIT - going to HD to look at these. http://www.homedepot.com/b/Electrica...s/N-5yc1vZbm55
Wish they made a shallow version in 12 gauge!!! No rush so I have time to investigate...... SLOOOOOW and steady!
Anyone with any experience???? Sorry, I don't want to spend the $$ on the inline fab stuff and I don't really need "quick disconnect", leaving me with a storage problem to solve! Being able to slide, adjust, add, and delete will be WAY more than I intended when this began.
PS - I just did the online registration with Hornady and coincidentally, I bought this second press 2 years and 2 days from the date of my first!!! Also, IF Hornady does sequential serial numbering, almost EXACTLY 20K presses have gone through the supply chain in that time period. I'm pretty sure neither of these were "old stock" either. When I bought the first one, these things were hard to find in stock (took me 2 months of watching suppliers) and when I bought the second, the guy was unloading it from the shipping pallet!!!!
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[QUOTE=smokindog;138482004]I just spent an hour or so doing some "heavy engineering" and I've decided to go look for some "channel track" to embed in a routed out groove in the table so the presses can be slid left and right. I'll also be able to firm up my Case Prep center when I use it.
I've found some aluminum channel online but I'm pretty sure I ought to be able to find steel.
This is what I'm thinking - aluminum mounting channel only for me120 edge 5' length
Anyone with any experience???? Sorry, I don't want to spend the $$ on the inline fab stuff and I don't really need "quick disconnect", leaving me with a storage problem to solve! Being able to slide, adjust, add, and delete will be WAY more than I intended when this began.
Not sure aluminum channel will hold up to the torque on heavy sizing jobs I prefer a solid permanent mount
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Just bolt the presses to a piece of 1 in oak stair tread and then clamp them when needed to the bench. Mount presses to the stair tread with carriage bolts from the bottom up counter bored enough to leave the board face flat and the nuts and washers up on the press side. I have all my bench equipment set up this way and is very convenient. Machines stored completely out of the way when not in use and cheap to do.
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I use cleats mounted on the bottoms of my 3 press boards and just clamp them in the bench vise when I use them. They are stored on a custom built shelf out of the way when not in use.
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I do appreciate the input on using clamps and sturdy lumber but one of the reasons I bought the tables and workbench was for the finished look (my wife shares the "half" (2/3rds) on the other side of that wall with the shelves for her craft studio). I could have built my own benches but would have ended up pretty close to the same price.
I want flexibility but in a finished look. The "C-channel" may give me that. Not a new idea, just look at the Tipton Gun vise. I may end up just mounting the second press directly bolted through the table as I did my first. After the comments on the inline fab stuff, looking at my Tipton, and thinking of other pictures I've seen in the various "show me your setup" threads, I decided to first investigate using a C Channel type mount.
Seriously, keep the input coming but it's a "finished and modifiable" look I'm going for (that is strong enough to do the job) and not a "quick change" kind of thing. I suspect that if this "C channel" thought pans out, I'll move things around a half dozen times in the first year to get the spacing just right and then whoever takes my room when I depart will be the next person to touch it
THANKS AGAIN to all!
EDIT- the shallow 14 gauge channel comes in a green powder coat AND they've got "spring loaded channel nuts" that match the bolt size and thread I use on my press. It will be more than sturdy enough (they hang commercial A/C units from the ceiling with this stuff). The only concern I still have is the width, it will leave quite the place for powder, primers, and other small items to collect. Always the next problem I guess but for $25 and a couple passes of the router, it's still a possibility!
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My 3 inch thick reloading bench supports whatever configuration I need. All my loading tools are mounted on individual plates that are clamped where/when I need them. Don't overthink this stuff.
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The easiest way is to get a strong mount.
Mount it to the table. I use 1-1 1/2 inch small wood screws. It does not take much. This is about the size I use.
When I take it off the bench, the holes are so small, you cant hardly see em. Use the same holes when you use it again..
If you don't want to scratch your table, all you have to do is put a couple of rubber strips under the strong mount. easy peasy.
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Hadn't seen it mentioned yet, and I know you said you were thinking of going the channel route--but you might be interested in the Pat Marlin Rock Dock too. Patmarlins- Specialty Products for Casting and Reloading
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In needs to be crammed into as small a space as possible.
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