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I will let this speak for itself
If i should not reload for it I don't want it
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meaning Glocks not the projectile
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Move thread to S&W Semi-autos
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Are you trying to say "should I load a 105g frangible in 40 S&W"?
If the load says it's safe to shoot, it should be safe to shoot. Whether or not it's worthwhile is different.
Personally, I wouldn't trust my life to a 105g frangible for self defense but if that's all I had, it's better than harsh language or a pointed stick.
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no the disclaimer about glocks maybe this needs to go in semi-auto thread
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I can't comment on this particular projectile. I use factory loads for personal defense. I can tell you that I have one of the first Glock 22s ever made. I have fired thousand of my own reloads through that pistol with the original factory barrel and have never had a problem. I consider the stories about substandard chamber strength to be anecdotal at best.
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I have had my Gen 2 Glock 19 since January 1990, it has had many thousand reloaded rounds put through it in the past 25+ years. I have been reloading for it since the beginning, with no issues. My then 11 year old son double tapped a squib in 1993, the barrel bulged and locked the slide. I was able to knock the slide forward with a block of wood and disassemble it. It was my wife's duty gun that she needed the next day for her shift. I called a co-worker and borrowed a barrel from one of his Glock 19's and she went to work on time. I ordered a barrel from Glock, it was shipped the same day and installed in her gun 3 days later.
In 2001 I sent the G19 back to Glock for an Inspection & re-spring, it was returned re-sprung and with all the current upgraded parts at NO Charge. They even re-sprung all 5 Hi-Caps that I had got when I traded for the gun used, it had been manufactured in November 1989. Pay attention ( which you should be doing anytime you are reloading ) with your reloading practices and when firing your pistol regardless of brand.
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Get rid of the Glocks, Buy a S&W.
Now ignore the disclaimer and shoot this load as much as you want
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Every make of gun says do not use reloads.
The Glock 40 has a pretty loose chamber and is partially supported. (that is why the are reliable and do not jam)
If you stay within load data and do not go crazy, millions of people reload the Glock 40 SW.
If ou load over specs than the case may bulge and you will see it in the brass. Then if that brass is used over and over it gets weak and could crack.
Don't worry about it.
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My Sig manual says use of any ammo other than new commercial ammo voids the warranty. My S&W and Glock manuals say the same. It's pretty standard for all makers to include this disclaimer.
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My Sig manual says use of any ammo other than new commercial ammo voids the warranty. My S&W and Glock manuals say the same. It's pretty standard for all makers to include this disclaimer.
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BUT NOT A RELOADING MANUAL (Sorry i yelled)
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BUT NOT A RELOADING MANUAL (Sorry i yelled)
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Seems to be a slow bunch..
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BUT NOT A RELOADING MANUAL (Sorry i yelled)
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Note that the statement includes the phrase "similar guns", which would likely involve several makes and models from multiple manufacturers, including S&W........ because they borrowed the design for the Sigma line from Glock
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But did not state any other makes.
Just Glock . I don't understand why this is so hard to explain unless book is wrong its there in black and white.
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Every US firearms manufacturer I know of, as well as distributors of non-US made firearms, specifically exclude any warranty coverage if reloaded ammunition is used. This is nothing new; it has been this way for several decades.
Without such disclaimers the manufacturer would be assuming liability for any act of stupidity any human is capable of (and we all know the broad range of possibilities, even if we are occasionally surprised).
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A lot on manuals and powder companies online say the same thing. It is know as CYA
Do a lot of people own Glocks? Yes
Do a lot of people reload for them? Yes
Is the Browning High Power in 40 SW poorly supported? Yes
Do they load for those? Yes
Did I own a Glock 40? Yes. Did I load for it? Yes. I am still here with all my fingers and the gun is well and alive.
What else can we tell you?
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Loaded 1000s for the G21. Shoot jacketed or plated with the Glock barrel and shoot lead with a KKM Precision barrel with ribbon rifling.
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My 4013 does not have a supported chamber but my 4006 does.
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I own Glock 34 and 35 pistols and had a 17 in the past. I run virtually all handloads in them, BUT I use only jacketed, plated or coated bullets. The 34 is accurate with the factory barrel. The 35 factory barrel was junk so I put a Jarvis in it. Jarvis swears you can shoot lead through his barrel. I tried lead and accuracy was poor but it's fine with jacketed.
The primary problem with lead ammo in Glock 40 cal. seems to be lead build-up which then causes extreme pressure which blows out the weak 40 brass.
If you're a good handloader you can probably save enough money vs. buying factory to buy a new Glock if you blow the first one up!
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Just like the manufacturer of Zombie ammo states it should only be used for "Zombie defense", the editor of that reloading manual is making that blanket statement simply for liability reasons, much like McDonald's coffee cups state: "coffee is hot and may cause burns".....
I guess I shouldn't have bought any of my guns, as somewhere, there is a thread, a manual, or somebody who knows somebody who once heard, that one had a KB......
Just think about all the threads on this site alone...... but, buy whatever firearm you feel safe reloading for. Just don't ever google it for mishaps, KB's or misfires.......
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Early Glock .40s had unsupported chambers; this situation has been remedied for almost 20 years.
A reloading manual advising caution--no way
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If in doubt, DON'T. With all respect due Glock owners and not to knock the Glock, I never liked those dam* things anyway........... and I'm sure the Glockers out there don't care.
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I love these threads.
Yes it says don't shoot in Glock. So what? It's for that particular load.
If you want to reload that one particular load and that it then don't use it in a Glock if you feel that way about it. There are many other loads available.
How's this for underwood ammo. DO NOT USE IN A 1911 ..... but Glock is ok!
http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mm-auto/
Isn't there also a warning about NOT using certain loads in a Garand?
DSA, the makers of FALs, some of the toughest rifles around also have a list of what shouldn't be used in their FALs
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