Hi Tek coated for 357 and M1 carbine

[LostintheOzone]

I've threatened to try coated bullets and I have. I've tried them in my 1911's and a 45 ACP revolver with good results. Those are moving at 800 fps.

I also have a few model 19's that I will try the new Hi Tek in.

My question is about higher velocities. My cabines run at 1500-2000 fps. I'm using FMJ now for both but would like to find a less expensive bullet.

Anyone using these bullets in carbines? What is the accuracy compared to FMJ? Any leading issues at this velocity?

I've contacted Acme but they seem to be pretty busy, probably a good thing. I would rather hear from users anyway as that is more of an unbiased assessment.

[Rule3]

Why not? MBC sells the coated for the 30 Carbine as does, Bayou

I have not used them but see no reason not to.

[dannyabear]

I have also used the BayouBullets in a 30 carbine with no problems

[muddocktor]

I've used Bayou and SNS coated bullets in 357. I have had no problems with the Hi Tek coated Bayou bullets leading in either pistol or my Rossi carbine. The SNS on the other hand have given me some leading problems when pushing them much past 1000 fps in my pistols. I haven't tried them in my rifle, thank God, as I bet it would be a major PITA to clean the leading out of a 16" barrel.

[elpac3]

No reason HiTek coated bullets should not work in the M1 carbine. The coating on the HiTek has been reported to hold up to velocities of 1800 FPS +.

I tried them (110 g RN) in mine and could not get the rounds to chamber. Remeasured, played with seating, crimping - - - - - put them in the magazine, let the bolt go and the bolt would not lock into battery. Went back to using the 110 g. FMJ and they run like a charm. Finally gave up on the coated for this rifle and decided to stick with the one and only designed bullet/load.

Good luck -

[LostintheOzone]

Originally Posted by elpac3

No reason HiTek coated bullets should not work in the M1 carbine. The coating on the HiTek has been reported to hold up to velocities of 1800 FPS +.

I tried them (110 g RN) in mine and could not get the rounds to chamber. Remeasured, played with seating, crimping - - - - - put them in the magazine, let the bolt go and the bolt would not lock into battery. Went back to using the 110 g. FMJ and they run like a charm. Finally gave up on the coated for this rifle and decided to stick with the one and only designed bullet/load.

Good luck -

Did you try a stronger slide spring? Some people swear by those. I'm using one and it pushes a round home with authority.

[Calliope]

I had leading in my 357 with SNS .357" diameter bullets (LEADing, not just plastic fouling), I switched to a Blue Bullets .358" and the problem went away. Not sure if it was the diameter or the type of coating that was causing the trouble.

[LostintheOzone]

I just ordered some 357 and 30 carbine from Missouri Bullet Company.

We'll see how it goes.

Thanks for the tips.

[rwsmith]

I've a bunch of coated Penn 110 RN carbine bullets ready to go and I'll try them out in a few days out of my 30-06. I like the 'Pinker' cup type jacketed bullets (when you can get get them) and if i want hotter I use the 115 gr. Spire Point and push it to about 2400. I'll get back with the results.

[Michael J. Spangler]

I can't speak from experience with the 30 but I've put a few 357s through an 1894c with no issues.
I did find some of the round leaded a bit which I attribute to me doing a poor job coating my cast rounds. I usually do 3 light coats and I believe this batch was mixed up and only received 2 coats.
These were loaded to about 14 grains of 2400 and 15 grains of h110 with a 358156.
Not sure what speeds that will get out of a 16.5" barrel but it's moving along.

That being said. When I did get any leading I just chased those mag loads with a few properly coated 38 specials and the bore was shiny again.

Don't hesitate to try them in 357.

I also have shot some full house 44 mag loads with 250 grain and 2400 powder. Shiny bore.


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[Forrest r]

I like to use the cramer #50 125gr m1 carbine bullet for plinking in the 308. A 10-shot group @50yds.



My favorite plinking load in the 357 is any of these bullets and 8.0gr of power pistol.

[ArchAngelCD]

I tried to make some MBC 9mm bullets fail and could not. I pushed them to over 1250fps with Longshot and they performed perfectly. I'm sure the coating is tough enough to shooting the 30 Carbine.

[muddocktor]

I tried to do that with Bayou Bullets coated also, ArchAngelCD and couldn't make the coating fail either. And that included loading with IMR4227, H110 and Accurate #9 powders in 357 and 44 Mag.

My experience with SNS coated on the other was the total opposite. It was easy to make the coating fail with SNS bullets, merely by loading a little over moderate velocities. Even loads clocking a little less than 1000 fps (on chronograph) would show some leading issues.

[Michael J. Spangler]

Originally Posted by muddocktor

I tried to do that with Bayou Bullets coated also, ArchAngelCD and couldn't make the coating fail either. And that included loading with IMR4227, H110 and Accurate #9 powders in 357 and 44 Mag.



My experience with SNS coated on the other was the total opposite. It was easy to make the coating fail with SNS bullets, merely by loading a little over moderate velocities. Even loads clocking a little less than 1000 fps (on chronograph) would show some leading issues.

That's odd. They use the same coating. I wonder if the SNS coating was a different color? I believe some of them hold up better than others.
Maybe they are more frugal and only coat twice instead of three times

[muddocktor]

I don't know what the difference is, Michael. But there darn sure is a big difference. I cannot so far make the Bayou bullets lead a barrel in a pistol, but it's easy to do with the SNS bullets. With the gold coatings at least, both look very similar. And with the SNS bullets, it happened with 9 MM (.356 dia., 125 gr RN), 357 (.358 dia. 125 and 158 gr RN, RNFP & SWC) and 44 (.430 dia., 240 gr SWC and RNFP).

[Michael J. Spangler]

Interesting. I'll have to look into that.
I wonder if it's an alloy issue too. I know that can negate the effects of the coating. Too soft is too soft.


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