230gr plated or FMJ IN .45 Colt?

[SLT223]

I have a bunch of these heads but don't really load .45 Auto anymore. Has anyone used them with success in .45 Colt brass?

 

[SLT223]

Where did you find .452" plated?

 

[smokindog]

45- 230 RN

unless you meant 200's

45- 200 RN

and they're on sale this weekend

Where did you find .452" plated?

 

[Arub]

I use 230 grain FMJ and LRNs interchangeably in my .45 colts and .45 autos. No issues in either. The .45 colt I shoot through a Ruger Blackhawk and a Marlin 1894 - accuracy not at issue. Don't know about other guns chambered for the .45 Colt.

 

[StakeOut]

At a few gun shows I've found good buys on 230gr LRN so I've been loading them over 7.0gr of Unique in 45C Starline cases and Federal GM 150M primers to shot out of a 4" unpinned Model 25-5.

OAL = 1.6" w/light rolled crimp

I recently bought a lb of BE-86 and loaded the 230gr LRN over 8.0gr.

They're a bit hotter than the 7.0gr of Unique loads but equally as accurate.

I use Berry's 200gr plated SWC in 45acp loads over 4.0gr of Red Dot

 

[SLT223]

Very cool. Thank you gentlemen. What have you guys been using for COL with 200 and 230gr RN slugs?

 

[Arub]

I load the 230 @ 1.240 - 1.250 for a Glock 36, 2 Kimber 1911s and a Ruger Black Hawk convertible. I had a Sig 1911 that was a little ogive sensitive and had to custom load for it.

 

[zonker5]

I use 230 grain FMJ and LRNs interchangeably in my .45 colts and .45 autos. No issues in either. The .45 colt I shoot through a Ruger Blackhawk and a Marlin 1894 - accuracy not at issue. Don't know about other guns chambered for the .45 Colt.

How are you crimping these in 45C?

 

[SLT223]

I load the 230 @ 1.240 - 1.250 for a Glock 36, 2 Kimber 1911s and a Ruger Black Hawk convertible. I had a Sig 1911 that was a little ogive sensitive and had to custom load for it.

I meant when you load 200/230 round nose in .45 LC brass.

 

[Arub]

I seat to the desired OAL and use the Lee factory crimp die (taper crimp). Adust die to just contact case then add 1/2 turn. Also supplied AOL for .45 ACP not .45 Colt. OAL used for the .45 colt is 1.56 for the LRN and 1.60 for the jacketed.

 

[Calliope]

My Speer manual says to crimp ACP bullets over the shoulder for LSWC's or on the nose for FMJ when loading them in .45 Colt.

Plated can be gently roll crimped into the side of the bullet, that's what I did with a bunch of 200 grain plated SWC's I had.

 

[alwslate]

I have a bunch of these heads but don't really load .45 Auto anymore. Has anyone used them with success in .45 Colt brass?

Heads??? Heads??? Match heads? Baby mouse heads?
Hard heads??? Nail heads??? Sooo confused. You don't mean
bullets by any chance do you? Anyway I have no experience
with bullets in revolver loads that don't have crimp grooves
or shoulders ..but; in Handloader magazine articles Mike
Venturino has written that bullet creep is very hard to avoid
with cast bullets with a smooth ogive.

 

[SLT223]

Heads??? Heads??? Match heads? Baby mouse heads?
Hard heads??? Nail heads??? Sooo confused. You don't mean
bullets by any chance do you?

Really? That confused you?

 

[arjay]

Heads??? Heads??? Match heads? Baby mouse heads?

Hard heads??? Nail heads??? Sooo confused. You don't mean

bullets by any chance do you? Anyway I have no experience

with bullets in revolver loads that don't have crimp grooves

or shoulders ..but; in Handloader magazine articles Mike

Venturino has written that bullet creep is very hard to avoid

with cast bullets with a smooth ogive.

I think he means boolits for his wheelgun [emoji14]

 

[Qc Pistolero]

I recently ran out of my favorite bullet for my plinking load in .45 Colt(215gr cast bowling pin bullet at aprox 750fps).Since my can of 230 RN(for ACP) was full,I decided that I'd give it a try.
Exept for a very little more kick and a smaller hole into the paper(RN vs SWC),I haven't seen any difference.
Them RN can be very accurate and as long as the only thing you need to ventilate is paper,they do a very acceptable job.So much so that I've decided to get out my .358 RN mould(160gr)out of the moth balls!
Qc Pistolero

 

[USSR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by alwslate View Post
Heads??? Heads??? Match heads? Baby mouse heads?
Hard heads??? Nail heads??? Sooo confused. You don't mean
bullets by any chance do you?

Really? That confused you?

Didn't confuse me, but it darn near irritates me. THEY'RE BULLETS, NOT HEADS!!!

Don

 

[ArchAngelCD]

How are you crimping these in 45C?

Same question I had when I saw the OP. Sure you can users 230gr bullet in the 45 Colt but bullets meant for a semi-auto and a revolver are different. Bullets loaded for a revolver need to be crimped so the bullets should have a crimp groove. The bullets you have, if really for the 45 Auto probably don't have a crimp groove. If so I would not use them in 45 Colt ammo.

 

[SLT223]

Quote:
Originally Posted by alwslate View Post
Heads??? Heads??? Match heads? Baby mouse heads?
Hard heads??? Nail heads??? Sooo confused. You don't mean
bullets by any chance do you?



Didn't confuse me, but it darn near irritates me. THEY'RE BULLETS, NOT HEADS!!!

Don

You must be very irritable.

 

[BLUEDOT37]

Bullets loaded for a revolver need to be crimped so the bullets should have a crimp groove. The bullets you have, if really for the 45 Auto probably don't have a crimp groove. If so I would not use them in 45 Colt ammo.

I shoot a lot of Xtreme's .452" 230gr P-HP (heavy plated, round nose hollow point, no cannelure) in my 25-13, 45 Colt, as well as in my 625-8PC in 45 Auto Rim cases, not to mention 45ACP cases too. All are +P loads, taper crimped & shoot just fine with little, to no, jump crimp.

If they're copper jacketed you can use a firm(er) taper crimp without fear of damaging it, as in plated.

I taper crimp all my Xtreme plated bullets (even the ones with the "shallow" cannelure) that I shoot in my 357s, 41 Mag, & 44 Mag as well, in moderate loads. No issues.

I also shoot 50AE bullets (no cannelure) in my 500 Mag that are "reduced loads" but still in traditional magnum pressure range (~35K psi), without issue, if deep seated to the ogive with a firm taper crimp.

.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Yes, have used 230 RN in .45 Colt. Seating depth bu eyeball for similar to how the same bullets would be seated in .45acp. Used regular rool crimp die, adjusted to just slightly turn the mouth in. I suppose that could have issues with certian combination of components, but worked fine with the bullets, brass , and dies I used. Don't recall the powder charge. I used what I otherwise used at the time for 250gr.

As seated, they were a hair longer than SAAMI. Worked fine in Blackhawk, but might have to seat deeper for a gun with short cylnder.