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Old 06-13-2016, 09:08 PM
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Been sorting through some of my 223/5.56 brass and pulling out the 223 Rem marked headstamps to work up some loads for my new Remington 783 rifle.

I noticed that the Perfecta brass was a little harder to deprime, and I found out why-the flash holes are WAY off center!! Some almost to the edge of the primer pocket So, needless to say, all the Perfecta brass is being "deep 6-ed". I don't buy Perfecta ammo because the negative reviews from those who have tried it. I don't keep or load the pistol brass either.

Anyone else have/see this issue?
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Old 06-13-2016, 09:15 PM
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Dang I will have to look at the flash holes as 90% of my brass is Perfecta as I buy once fired at the indoor range and that is what the people buy around here the most. I do know that they group terrible in my benchrest AR. My loads will shoot less then a 1/2 MOA at 100yds Perfecta shot 2.5 or worst. Now I have shot 1/3 MOA and it was Perfecta brass but maybe it was better brass or the flash hole doesn't matter.
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Old 06-13-2016, 09:27 PM
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Is it Berdan which has two flash holes instead of one in the center like Boxer primed brass we are so used to here in the US?

If it is Berdan, then simply save it all up and then head to the salvage yards and exchange it for $$$$

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Old 06-13-2016, 09:36 PM
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No it's not.
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Old 06-13-2016, 09:59 PM
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I am loading 223 Perfedta brass right now and all the flash holes are just fine you might have just got a bad batch.
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Old 06-13-2016, 10:04 PM
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I've come across a few and they were OK. Always a good idea to eyeball each case inside and out. Best time is probably after resizing/decapping. Amazing what turns up, especially if they come from an outdoor range and have been on the ground for a while.
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Old 06-14-2016, 05:31 AM
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Out of 20-25 cases, only 2 of them had anything close to a centered flash hole. I have thousands of 223/5.56 cases, so throwing out bad cases isn't a concern to me. I can see why accuracy would be poor, don't know how the primer flash could get to the powder charge with flash holes so far off!

I don't shoot steel case ammo, but would probably buy it, before I would buy Perfecta ammo.
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Old 06-14-2016, 03:37 PM
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I do a short tumble and resize and deprime 223 before I measure it and do a good cleaning and polishing. So when I reload on the 550B it only prime and I am now checking each case before it goes on the primer stage. Thanks for the heads up about the off center flash holes I would never thought of it. I am petty sure when that primer pops that blast is going out that hole where ever it's at but I am OCD so will watch.
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The first few 223 cases that I sorted out and tumbled (dry-with primers in), I deprimed with a Lee 22 caliber base & punch set, sitting on my front porch. I noticed I had trouble with the pin locating the flash hole. I didn't pay much attention until before I started sizing; and then noticed how far off center they were. Not just a little-way off! As I stated above, out of 20-25 cases, only 2 were even close to center; and those were tossed out with the others.

I'm no comp/bench rest shooter, but what goes into my firearms, handgun, rifle or shotgun, is going to be right and the best quality I can personally produce. That has served me well for the past 36 years and I'm not about to change now. Sub par components = Sub par ammo/performance.
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:29 PM
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I've run into the same problem with the Fiocchi 223 stuff with the G.F.L. headstamp. Flash holes are way off center and out of 100 cases less than 10 were even close to being centered. So far, this brass appears to be just as accurate as anything else fired through my AR with the flash hole centered so I will hang onto it just in case. I'm a plinker so my definition of accuracy could be lower than others.

I have read that Fiocchi makes the 9mm Pefecta ammo and from the sounds of it they also make the 223 stuff as well.
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Old 06-14-2016, 11:27 PM
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Same problem here with "TAA" head stamp, a lot of effort
to deprime compared to LC...

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Old 06-15-2016, 05:29 AM
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I've run into the same problem with the Fiocchi 223 stuff with the G.F.L. headstamp. Flash holes are way off center and out of 100 cases less than 10 were even close to being centered. So far, this brass appears to be just as accurate as anything else fired through my AR with the flash hole centered so I will hang onto it just in case. I'm a plinker so my definition of accuracy could be lower than others.

I have read that Fiocchi makes the 9mm Pefecta ammo and from the sounds of it they also make the 223 stuff as well.
Funny, I've got several GFL marked 223 cases and they all seem to be fine. Guess you never know what to expect!
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I haven't had any issues with depriming Perfecta. But I have noticed they do crimp the primers. I have had to ream out the pockets on the ones I have. I've done at least 3 reloads on the brass I have with no issues so far. They may not make the most accurate ammo, but are fine for plinking loads.
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Was in the shop cleaning primer pockets tonight and ran across 20 pieces of the Fiocchi stuff I mentioned in an earlier post. Took a picture of the best and worst. Most were on the worst end. Probably send these off to the scrap metal pile after this reload.
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Was in the shop cleaning primer pockets tonight and ran across 20 pieces of the Fiocchi stuff I mentioned in an earlier post. Took a picture of the best and worst. Most were on the worst end. Probably send these off to the scrap metal pile after this reload.
That's exactly what the Perfecta brass looked like!!
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I've gone through several thousand since it came out and nothing. No issues. Great range and practice ammo. I don't reload so I don't bother looking at the brass. Also I don't bench or shoot for tight groups so I can't speak for that. However it fed, fired, extracted, rechambered and hit center mass from 25 to 100 yards. That's all I need it to do

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