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Old 06-30-2016, 06:52 PM
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Been trying to work up some plinking loads using tite group. I am out in Bush Alaska so getting powder is very hard. I do have 3 pounds of tite group. I was wondering if any one tried wadding up tite group in a big case like the 460. I keep reading about these horror stories of 500 smiths blowing up because of detonation??
i was thinking if one could wadd up tite group it would give a safer and cleaner burn in a big case? Any ideas?
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Seriously, I use titegroup a lot in 9mm and .40, and you can easily double charge even in those small cases. With your large case, it raises all kinds of alarms about reduced charges. I've seen ringed barrels from wads producing unpredictable pressure curves, so it could be an expensive experiment to try using wads.

For the 460 S&W Magnum, Hodgdon shows a starting load of 15gr of titegroup under a 325gr lead bullet at 48000 PSI.
I would ask them why there is no smaller load listed before inventing one. I like titegroup, but it has never impressed me as a powder to just experiment with "off the charts."

Can't you just load up some .45 colt cases using 7gr titegroup and 180gr lead bullets and shoot those in the 460 magnum for plinkers? Hodgdon lists that. Am I missing something?
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I use TG in 9mm and 40 with plated bullets. TG has a very narrow "window" to work within-sometimes only .4-.5 gr. from min to max.

I would try to find a more medium to slow powder to load the large magnum rounds.
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Seriously, I use titegroup a lot in 9mm and .40, and you can easily double charge even in those small cases. With your large case, it raises all kinds of alarms about reduced charges. I've seen ringed barrels from wads producing unpredictable pressure curves, so it could be an expensive experiment to try using wads.

For the 460 S&W Magnum, Hodgdon shows a starting load of 15gr of titegroup under a 325gr lead bullet at 48000 PSI.
I would ask them why there is no smaller load listed before inventing one. I like titegroup, but it has never impressed me as a powder to just experiment with "off the charts."

Can't you just load up some .45 colt cases using 7gr titegroup and 180gr lead bullets and shoot those in the 460 magnum for plinkers? Hodgdon lists that. Am I missing something?


Pretty much any loads that are not in a 460 case seem very inaccurate and have massive leading issues. I tried 6g of tite group with 250g rainer plated in a 45 shell. They leaded badly and were very inaccurate.
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If you can't find an answer anywhere else write to Brian Pearce at
Handloader magazine, he can help you. Titegroup should be usable
because it is not position sensitive in large cases. Wadding in ANY
handgun ctg case is a very bad idea.
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If you can't find an answer anywhere else write to Brian Pearce at
Handloader magazine, he can help you. Titegroup should be usable
because it is not position sensitive in large cases. Wadding in ANY
handgun ctg case is a very bad idea.
In my book,wads belongs to shotgunning and some black powder loads.In a smokeless powder load,you might end up with a nice ring somewhere along your barrel.
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