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11-10-2016, 11:48 PM
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Reddings carbide 3 die-set in 9mm
Hello everyone,reloading newbie here. I'm strongly considering purchasing a standard set of 3 Redding carbide dies in 9mm. The thing is, I've read a couple reviews on Midway's website that concern me and was hoping to get some extra feedback from anyone who has experience with this particular die set. Here are the 2 reviews:
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The components used in manufacturing the dies are of the highest quality and tolerances are well maintained. The problem that I have is when sizing thinner brass from companies such as Blazer, Federal the sizing die will leave a distinct ridge around the base of the case. It doesn't do this with older or thicker brass, which leads me to believe that the Redding design needs to be updated. I contacted the company and they were aware of the problem, and suggested that I either return their product for a refund or try backing out the die a full turn to not fully resize the case. This latter suggestion I will try and finish off the round with a LEE FCD. If this doesn't work then it's a new sizer from someone else.
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I gave it a 2-star rating because Redding has gone to universal type seating stem that is suppose to be able to seat any bullet shape - RN, HP, etc. While great in concept, it leaves very noticeable rings cut into the bullet. Upon inspection the circular piece that makes contact with the bullet during seating is flat/square rather than tapered; thus resulting in the nasty cut rings in the bullet after seating. Contacted Redding and they promptly provided a new seating stem that was tapered. (Great customer service!) Now it leaves a noticable donut depression ring in bullet. I try not to overwork the mouth of the case too much when expanding for the bullet seating, so they start tight. However, I had no problem with rings appearing (cut or dents) when using another brand to complete the bullet seating operation.
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Really hoping someone here on the forum who has experience with Redding 9mm dies can chime in and tell me if there really is a seating and resizing issue. These dies cost top dollar and I want to be sure about their reliability before I pull the trigger.
Thanks, John
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11-11-2016, 12:07 AM
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I would go with RCBS, and put the difference in cost in my pocket. I have one set of Redding/SAECO dies, and while they are nice, to me, they are not worth the additional costs. One other note: I had to send the de-capping assembly from a 35 Whelen die set back to Redding years ago. What they sent back to me was incorrect, and I was charged not only the return cost of shipping, but the cost of the new replacement piece as well (which they finally got right after a second phone call).
In over 30 years of dealing with RCBS, I have never been charged a dime for a replacement/repair part. Not once.
Green is my favorite color; but it is RCBS green, not Redding/SAECO.
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11-11-2016, 12:51 AM
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And Redding dies are my favorite as I upgrade my reloading gear. They have been flawless for many years.....
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11-11-2016, 03:19 AM
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More recent dies for straight wall cases are "radised" at the base to allow progressive presses to line up faster and keep production speed up. I have 1982 RCBS carbide 9mm dies and they make the most beautiful ammo you ever saw, and on my progressive were slower than molasses, I went to modern dies and the production rate was up in the 500 round per hour range. The full auto MAC-10, nor the S&W 39-2 didn't mind a bit!
Also some fired brass comes out of the pistol slightly bulged from chamber and will never have a factory profile again without using a push through die. (I don't think any company makes one in 9mm) Some brass comes out of open bolt machineguns with bulges so big I considered it unsafe for reloading (they looked like they had a beer belly, sometimes all the way around, sometimes not) and put them in the scrap bucket. I never had any problems with about 35,000 rounds loaded with the modern die design in any of the 9mm handguns I had. (we don't shoot reloads in the wife's Glock 17, but that is about her confidence).
The quality on RCBS or Redding die sets are both fantastic. I would recommend trying to stick to one brand of dies, for parts interchangeability (when you break a part on Thursday night, the warranty does no good for Saturday's shooting session). I have every brand of die know to man and a few that have no name. (I even have a set for 219 Donaldson Wasp by Harvey Donaldson, and 257 Roberts by Ned Roberts.) I have to mix and match the thread patterns to replace decapping stems when they go. I have like six brands of decapping pins and still have to make custom pins sometimes! (I bought many die sets used for the 114 cartridges I load for) So, trust me, Don't do as I did, Do as I say- life will be easier!
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11-11-2016, 09:02 AM
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I've been using Redding 3 die carbide for about 2 1/2 years now. Very satisfied.
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11-11-2016, 09:03 AM
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I've been using Redding 3 die carbide in 9 mm for about 2 1/2 years now. Very satisfied.
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11-11-2016, 09:37 AM
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Long ago I pitched my RCBS for Redding - never looked back. The shape of the seating stem and effect on a lead bullet is not necessarily unique to Redding - IMO.
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11-11-2016, 08:20 PM
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Thanks for the feedback guys. Much appreciated, sounds like I can't really screw this up if I go with the Redding or RCBS.
I understand many re-loaders absolutely love the Lee factory crimp die as well. Might just add that one for the final step because I shoot 9mm out of a semi auto.
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