What are you shooting in your 625?

pdcrig · Nov 11, 2017

So I just picked up a pretty good 625-4 and it's my second foray into the .45ACP revolver world. The first revolver didn't stay in my safe for long but this one is a keeper I think (specially with new Ahrend's Retro Targets). That said, what loads do you find your particular 625 shoots well? Do they prefer roll crimp or taper crimp loads? I've tried it with some 200gr Rainier SWCs over Herco and it does not like them at all. My 1911 loves this load. It shot factory UMC 230gr ball and JHPs a little better. Everything shot low. The rear sight is stiff and I still haven't got it adjusted. I'll try again later.
I'd like a balance of power and accuracy. It would be nice for the same load to be good in the 1911 and the 625. I'm looking at the Sierra 240gr JHP and the Speer 260gr JHP. Any experience with those? Thanks guys. And girls if there are any out there.

Ignatz · Nov 11, 2017

Unfortunately, changing the front sight height is how you get the groups centered where you want.
What kind of groups are you getting at 25 yards with that UMC 230gr ball?
That should be a good round for 25 yard accuracy.

pittpa · Nov 11, 2017

My 625-8 likes whatever my 1911 likes. and my 1911 likes Zero 185 jhp and 170g Magnus bullets.

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oldgranddad · Nov 11, 2017

625-4

I'm shooting 200 gr SWC over 6.5gr Win AutoComp or 5.2 gr HP-38 or 3.6 gr Clays. All do well from 10 yds to 25 yds. Since they must also work in my 1911, I use a taper crimp. At those ranges, I haven't found that brass or primer mfgr makes a difference.
Hope you find something that works well for you. I love shooting my 625.

oldgranddad · Nov 11, 2017

Photo

BTW, I'd sure like to see a photo of your 625 with the retro target grips.

oldgranddad · Nov 11, 2017

Ignatz said:
Unfortunately, changing the front sight height is how you get the groups centered where you want.
What kind of groups are you getting at 25 yards with that UMC 230gr ball?
That should be a good round for 25 yard accuracy.

Ignatz, why is that? I can adjust my rear sight up or down, left or right.
Thanks

Andy Lowry · Nov 11, 2017

I load the same for 1911s and revolvers-- coated 230 gn ball with 4.7 Titegroup, taper crimp. Sometimes I run plated, but the 625 likes lead better. The 325 is the same with either plated or coated. I've read that the extra depth on the rifling on a 625 is designed for lead, but I don't know if that's a fact or a rumor. (And maybe it's only the PC model that's that way, which mine is, so I don't have anything to compare it to.)

BoCash · Nov 11, 2017

Running 4.5 gr Titegroup and 200 cast SWC here in a 625-2.

Recently got away from annoying moon clips and began using .45 Auto Rim shells.

Nice, sweet load that is accurate and won't wreck your gun or hand.

S&W Fan · Nov 11, 2017

I had a 625-3 4", swapped out the front ramp sight for a SDM gold dot. Just shot mostly Winchester or Federal 230gr fmj. They both were spot on out to 20 yards. As long as I did my part they did theirs. I probably should've started using lighter loads as for me the gun was becoming less pleasant to shoot. In 1911s no prob, however in round guns I just didn't enjoy it.

Mike SC Hunter · Nov 11, 2017

Cast 255 gr SWC's and cast 230 TC's all pushed by Unique....Some not all in auto rim cases.

Macinaw · Nov 11, 2017

Photo : Just for the heck of it.

I am a Cowboy Action shooter. I use the same bullet for Wild Bunch shooting competition. 230gn Magma Eng. mold with 4.5 grains of Trail Boss. .White Label lube (BAC) Has worked well for 12 years.

Ignatz · Nov 11, 2017

oldgranddad said:
Ignatz, why is that? I can adjust my rear sight up or down, left or right.
Thanks

I had to change my front sight to a higher front sight because with 230 gr bullets at 730fps, it shot high. A faster, lighter bullet would shoot more dead on. Once I changed the front sight, the rear sight was more in the middle of its range.

Arm · Nov 11, 2017

Well, I'm Loading a 185 Nosler Match grade using Vit N310 @ 5.0 gr very accurate for my 625-8 your results may vary.

pdcrig · Nov 11, 2017

UMC group size at 25 paces was about 4-5". The reloads were easily twice that. I wasn't trying really hard but I was trying better than that. The reloads will lay them into one big ragged hole with the 1911. And I shoot my 629 MG very well with some of my .44 reloads. I'm guessing I'll just have to start shopping around for a bullet it likes. Maybe a .452 diameter lead pill will do the trick. I'd like to stay with a heavier bullet but I guess I'll go with what works.
Stay tuned.....

Pics for those who asked. That demooning tool was $10 on Amazon and works great.

mike campbell · Nov 11, 2017

A 200 gr plated bullet (Berry, Rainier or my favorite Xtreme) over 5 grains of WST will hold 1.5" for 5 shots @ 50 feet from any of my 1911's as well as the 625. A bullseye-shootin buddy of mine uses some other 200gr bullet but swears by the 5 gr of WST...and he tests with a Ransom rest at 50 yds. I bet that load would satisfy most people for casual target shooting.

For competition I tailor the load to the gun, so the 1911 gets 6.5 grains of WAC and the 625 loves 5 grains of Bullseye, both under a 185 JHP.

I suppose I could shoot my 625 without moon clips, or drive my '68 Firebird 400 with 87 octane ... but I don't.

BLUEDOT37 · Nov 12, 2017

pdcrig said:
...what loads do you find your particular 625 shoots well?
Do they prefer roll crimp or taper crimp loads?
It would be nice for the same load to be good in the 1911 and the 625.
I'm looking at the Sierra 240gr JHP...

As a rule of thumb, loads that group well in my 3rd Gen 45 autos group well in my 325/625s.

I favor .452" diameter bullets for the revolvers due to their throat sizing but .451" do well too.

I mainly use 45 Auto Rims in my revolvers as I'm not big on moonclips in them. Taper crimp for bullets without cannelures.

I load Sierra's 240gr JHCs in my (+P) & 45 Super loads in the revolvers, mainly because it has a cannelure & I can give them a good roll crimp.

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625-8 PC 4" bbl

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325TR

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Hasbeen1945 · Nov 12, 2017

I'm shooting the Missouri coated RNFP 200 grainers I'm using 5.4 grains of HP 38. My pistol is a 625-4. This load also shoots real well in my Baer 1911.

g8rb8 · Nov 12, 2017

mike campbell said:
A 200 gr plated bullet (Berry, Rainier or my favorite Xtreme) over 5 grains of WST ......

I've had similar performance from a similar load:
Xtreme .45 acp (.451" diameter) 200 gr copper plated SWC with W-231 4.6 gr.

I'd like to try Missouri Bullet Company Hi-Tek coated .45 acp "button" (.452 diameter) 185 grain SWC. If anyone reading this has tried this, or a similar, Missouri Bullet Company coated .45 acp bullet please weigh in.

Pizza Bob · Nov 12, 2017

For my 625-8 PC I use 3.8 grs of Clays behind an Ibejiheads 230 gr coated RN. I use this for IDPA and have thousands of rounds through this gun.

Clays is pretty versatile - I use it for .38 Spl (also for IDPA) and .38 Super (for USPSA).

Adios,

Pizza Bob

CH4 · Nov 12, 2017

pdcrig said:
Pics for those who asked.

I shoot whatever I am shooting through my 1911s.

For those interested in a 625 with Ahrends grips, here're a couple more flavors.

Does anyone make factory 45AR ammo or is it strictly a reloading proposition?

What are you shooting in your 625?

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