Need some input on these shot shells

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I have a considerable amount of the .410 shells. Mostly AA Win., but, quite a smattering of Remington hulls also.

I have a number of the 20 gauge AA Win., but, probably close to a case worth.

The 12 gauge green hulls are Remington. I don't know if they are reloadable or not. I believe they are. I have a butt load of them.

What are they worth?

I believe they are all 'once' fired. Not sure. And can't guarantee that they are.

Let me know if you will.

Thanx,

bdGreen


 
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The Double A 20 gauge is a older hull but still good to reload. The 12 gauge hull is pretty muck junk. The AA 410 is pre HS and is reloadable if you can find the White wad. The ribbed 410 (like the 12 gauge) is technically reloadable, but most reloaders will pass.

As to value on the non-HS 20 and 410 cases, 2 cents a piece at most! With Primers, shot and powder being somewhat rare currently, the one thing there are plenty of is empty hulls, and basically yours are out dated. Sorry.

If you have the means to use them, do so. If you don't, bag them by 100 and flea market them cheap. In the 90's people bought similar hulls for field use where they couldn't recover their emptied. But I believe those days are 20 to 30 years past. I gave 400 various 410 hulls and 700 white wads to the kid that bought my Lee Loader (Beat together loader) 15 years ago.

Ivan
 
Thanx for the quick response.

The green hulls were questionable as I don't really remember how I acquired them. They may have been cheap dove and quail loads from yesteryear.

I acquired all of the .410 hulls when I purchased a beautiful little Winchester Model 101 from a gentleman. I purchased it with all of his reloading components.

I probably have a thousand .410 hulls.

I also have a thousand wads. But, I am afraid they haven't aged well. The petals are brittle and I wouldn't even consider using them or selling them to someone.

I no longer own the Winchester .410 O/U.
So, all of this will probably go into the barrel and set on the curb come Monday morning.

What I have kept is about 2-3 thousand 12 Gauge AA hulls that I have used in the past. I know their history and they are in good shape to load again.

Thanx again for the quick response.

Of course it isn't what I was hoping to hear. Ha. So much for a gold mine in this day of supply chain hiccups.:D

Bruce
 
The Remington shells may be OK if they use 209 primers. Some earlier Remington plastic shells used a smaller diameter primer. Those I would not bother with.
 
t he AA20s are worth at least 5 cents each if once fired. Those hulls will have a copper colored primer if older copper center if a bit newer. The AA 410s are the old style compression formed shells If they were 3 inch 30 cents each 2 1/2 like pictured 10 cents each maybe more. The ribbed 410s (Federal?) if once fired I just got 5 cents each for. They load fine once maybe twice. Right now 410 empties are hard to find. I personally have 10,000 Remington 410 MTs and they bring 10 cents(they can hold more shot) as can the federals...For skeet shooters ya know? Ols style once fired CF 12 ga AAs sell for 10 cents. The Rem 12 ga as pictured were made quite a few years ago as a Duplex shot trap load. Not as popular as AAs and the one shown is not once fired but 2 cents. Sporting clays and trap ranges have lots of 12 ga in trash barrels. Small gauges not so much. Try selling them on this site or Cast Boolit site.
 
I've been loading 12 Gauge for about 40 years but .410 only recently and in very small quantities. Why does that AA .410 need a "white" wad? And what exactly is a white wad? As stated above, the .410 hulls are not something you find in the trash at the local trap range and I would be willing to try some of these if nobody wants them.
 
David Sinko said:
I've been loading 12 Gauge for about 40 years but .410 only recently and in very small quantities. Why does that AA .410 need a "white" wad? And what exactly is a white wad? As stated above, the .410 hulls are not something you find in the trash at the local trap range and I would be willing to try some of these if nobody wants them.
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WINWAA41 (White wad, made by winchester) is specifically for WIN AA .410 skeet 1/2 oz hulls. My MEC 600JR .410 loader is still set up for them, and the components used to be readily available.
Claybusters also makes .410 wads. Good luck.
 
That Remington has been loaded several times and is on it's last leg.

I would not ask top dollar if they are are not brand new, factory fired ammo.
 
David Sinko said:
Why does that AA .410 need a "white" wad? And what exactly is a white wad?
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All Winchester 410's (both 2.5" & 3" and both Suer-X and AA) have been loaded on "HS" hulls for well over a decade, and use WAA41HS red wads.

The pre HS 410 hulls use the WAA41 wad or equivalent and it is white colored.

Ivan
 
I use the Winchester White Wad in loading both older compression formed AA410 and the newer HS.
In fact I use the White Wad of it's ClayBuster clone in any 410 hull with the same load. I only load 2 1/2" 410.
Winchesters, Federal, Remington, some fer'in. I've even used some of the buckshot cases from the loads for the Judge type pistols that I find on the pistol range.
They are roll crimped from the looks of them but they Star crimp nicely with out any special tricks.

Any extra space above the shot load needing to be filled to make a solid crimp in the wide assortment of cases being loaded gets taken care of with a pinch of RiceCrispys into the case before pre-crimp.
!2ga I use Cheerios for that chore.
 
Ivan the Butcher;141446491 The pre HS 410 hulls use the WAA41 wad or equivalent and it is white colored. Ivan[/QUOTE said:
That is what I'm still using. I rarely shoot a .410 anymore so I probably still have a lifetime supply. Larry
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Pass the beans, please.

There are lots of ways to get a load to work out........
just that each type hull needs the correct style of wad, if you have them,
The correct amount of powder to position the shot, for a proper crimp,
and your crimp station set close enough to keep the pellets inside the case.

It takes a lot of knowledge and adustment to get a load that will pass this test.
Here is a picture of one of my trys at a light trap or skeet load with a 12 Ga. hull.

Even with you best effert, fine tuning a load, does not always work, no matter what the guage is,
if you don't have the correct components, it is a tuff go.
 
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