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32 H&R Mag load recommendations needed…..
Hello all. I will be picking up my new 632UC today and I need to feed it.
I have a Lee tl314-90-swc 2 cavity bullet mold on the way along with 500 pieces of new 32 H&H Mag Starline brass.
I want to use Bullseye powder and Alliant says to use 2.3 grains of Bullseye for a 98 grain LHBWC.
So, any suggestions for Bullseye and a 90 grain LSWC? My alloy is clip on wheel weights, powder coated, and lightly lubed with 45/45/10.
All opinions are welcome!
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I use the 2.3 of Bullseye and a 98 grain WC.
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I find the 2.3 gr BE to be a easy shooting load and accurate on paper. I have pushed things much faster with a RCBS 98 gr swc but that is for different purposes.
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03-13-2024, 01:16 AM
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same as above 2.1/2.3 gr for me under a 98gr wc
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Not a great deal of lead 90 grain data out there.
Lyman #49 has some 90 grain jacketed bullets with 3.1 to 3.5 Bullseye going 1008 fps or so. I would try 3.8 of WW231 at 980 fps. Most of the accuracy loads were with WW231 at similar pressures to Bullseye.
I have been loading 32 S&W Long for about 40 years. here are a few things I learned about lead SWC's in that time.
Don't worry about leading the barrel. Proper fit is important, but some barrels lead no matter what! (Even at the high 900's you should be fine!) I believe it has to with the type and quality of the rifling.
The discontinued Hornady 90 grain SWC is soft lead. wax lube and very accurate! The Lee 90 gr SWC tumble lube shoots poor no matter what hardness!
A RNFP of the same weight is more accurate than a SWC, because of the higher percentage of bearing surface.
On small game, a solid hit with 90 gr SWC's is a good show!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivan the Butcher
Not a great deal of lead 90 grain data out there.
Lyman #49 has some 90 grain jacketed bullets with 3.1 to 3.5 Bullseye going 1008 fps or so. I would try 3.8 of WW231 at 980 fps. Most of the accuracy loads were with WW231 at similar pressures to Bullseye.
I have been loading 32 S&W Long for about 40 years. here are a few things I learned about lead SWC's in that time.
Don't worry about leading the barrel. Proper fit is important, but some barrels lead no matter what! (Even at the high 900's you should be fine!) I believe it has to with the type and quality of the rifling.
The discontinued Hornady 90 grain SWC is soft lead. wax lube and very accurate! The Lee 90 gr SWC tumble lube shoots poor no matter what hardness!
A RNFP of the same weight is more accurate than a SWC, because of the higher percentage of bearing surface.
On small game, a solid hit with 90 gr SWC's is a good show!
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Thank for the insights gained from your experience!
I have now changed my bullet mold choice, even though I have purchased the Lee mold. I have ordered a NOE 315-102-SWC five cavity mold. Mainly because I can produce a bunch more bullets with a five cavity versus a 2 cavity with about the same effort.
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casting/sizing tip
When I cast bullets, I always end the session with a "Quick run of bulk casting." That in my case is several pours in the Lee 6 cavity Number 4 Buck mold. At 18 shot per pour, they add up fast. These are just dumped in a coffee can for future use.
I would use the high capacity 32 SWC mold the same way. Every time I was casting, just do 50 or 100 and set aside. If a need for 500 shows up, you may only need to size what you need.
My other "Always make some" bullet is the Gas Check version of good old 3115. That's Lyman's 32-20 115grain RNFP bullet. I cast hundreds to thousands extra. Then when I am sizing a certain diameter, I size several hundred of these in that diameter. That one bullet gets sized to: .308, .309, .311, & .314. That same bullet is used in 32 Long, (it is the correct bullet for 32 Colt New Police) 30 Mauser, 30 Carbine, 32-20, 7.62x39, *30-30 Win, *308 Win. *30-06, *303 British, & *7.62x54 Russian (* for plinking loads only) I'm sure it would be great in 32 H&R Mag too!
I have 120gr RN w/GC, and 84gr RN molds I do multi-sizes with also.
Having already cast & sized extras let you experiment with a new powder or a new cartridge on short notice. Such common demand bullets make good trading fodder with fellow handloaders. (or just help out a brother in need)
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BeachBumShooter, I’ve loaded a bunch of 32 S&W L rounds with a 95-98 gr LSWC swaged bullet and 2.5 gr of Bullseye to shoot in my little I frame snubbie. I wouldn’t hesitate to use that load in 32 H&R brass. That 102 gr NOE bullet should hit right in the sweet spot for H&R loadings. For whatever reason, I’ve been drifting toward 231 at similar power levels, but that’s mostly due to powder availability.
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The only source I have for a 90gr LSWC in 32 H&R Magnum is from the Hornady Handbook 4th Edition. The starting load for Bullseye is 2.2gr with the maximum of 3.1gr.
The photo is page 538 if you want to try other powders.
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BeachBumShooter, I’ve loaded a bunch of 32 S&W L rounds with a 95-98 gr LSWC swaged bullet and 2.5 gr of Bullseye to shoot in my little I frame snubbie. I wouldn’t hesitate to use that load in 32 H&R brass. That 102 gr NOE bullet should hit right in the sweet spot for H&R loadings. For whatever reason, I’ve been drifting toward 231 at similar power levels, but that’s mostly due to powder availability.
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Thank you.
I’m going with Bullseye because I have a bunch of it and I use it for 38 special and 44 special loads. I’ll keep 231 in mind if I run across a good deal.
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Originally Posted by Bastogne71
The only source I have for a 90gr LSWC in 32 H&R Magnum is from the Hornady Handbook 4th Edition. The starting load for Bullseye is 2.2gr with the maximum of 3.1gr.
The photo is page 538 if you want to try other powders.
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Yes! That’s what I was looking for, thank you.
Ok, 2.2 up to 3.1 of Bullseye makes sense to me.
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