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DIES FOR DIFFERENT 9 MM CARTRIDGES
Just for those who may have guns in different 9mm calibers, Parabellum, Largo, Browning Long, etc. Just buy a die set for 9MM parabellum (Luger, 9x19, etc.) to load for all of these. Several years ago I was trying to find a correct 9mm Largo carbide die set and ended up with RCBS, Lyman, Redding and one other. All of them were simply 9x19 dies that varied only by the caliber marking on the dies and box! Sized cases were identical from all the die sets. Expensive lesson!
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I would suppose....
...that if you set the dies to where your rounds would plunk in a 9mm Largo barrel that was what the manufacturer intended rather than making a separate die. Give it a try.
The Firing Line forum also recommends using a .38 special die and 9mm expander.
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...that if you set the dies to where your rounds would plunk in a 9mm Largo barrel that was what the manufacturer intended rather than making a separate die. Give it a try.
The Firing Line forum also recommends using a .38 special die and 9mm expander.
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You very obviously did not understand the purpose of my post!!! The intent was strictly to advise that die sets for several nominal 9mm cartridges are simply 9x19 dies with different caliber markings.
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I will have to test your hypothesis with the die set I have labeled “9x23 Winchester”.
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I will have to test your hypothesis with the die set I have labeled “9x23 Winchester”.
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I have a set of 9x23 dies too, don't recall the brand but probably RCBS. They are downstairs and I am not, but they are 9x19 just like the others! I doubt anything has changed, but let me know. The way to tell is compare where the shoulder of the case compared to a 9x19 sized in a 9x19 marked die. The longer cases will have a longer neck, but the shoulder will be in the same place.
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9x23 Win dies are essentially elongated 9x19 dies. They work OK with 9x19 cases. I have loaded 9x19 with 9x23 dies but have not tried the reverse. I assume 9x23 dies will also work with 9mm Largo and 9mm Steyr cases. I have also used .38 Super dies successfully with .38 S&W and 9x23 cases. I have not tried using .38 Super dies for loading 9x19 but I suspect they would work.
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How about 380 Auto, 9×17mm, 9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, and 9mm Browning Court
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9mm dies.
New RCBS carbide sizing die has the 9mm Luger case body taper built into the die. Does 1 size fit all?
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I've used my 38 S&W dies for 9mm Mak.
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The set of RCBS 9mm dies I bought in 2014 are labeled: 9x19, 9x21, 9x23 mm
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9x19 dies will not work with 9x18 Makarov due to the Mak's larger bullet diameter (.364-.365) and slightly different case dimensions when comparing the two rounds.
9mm Makarov vs 9mm Luger - Handgun Cartridge Comparison.
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How about 380 Auto, 9×17mm, 9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, and 9mm Browning Court
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And 9mm Mauser Export?
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OK--I just bought a .38 Super and I am wondering if I can reload cartridges with my set of 9x19 Parabellum dies (I haven't loaded 9mm since the early 2000's).
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combination die
I have accidentally loaded 380 on my Dillon Square Deal set up for 9mm , never notice until I was putting the rounds in boxes. Shot OK in my 380, I don't load hot rounds for killing paper. I was loading a bunch of range picked upped brass and thought I had them all sorted.
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Well...
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You very obviously did not understand the purpose of my post!!! The intent was strictly to advise that die sets for several nominal 9mm cartridges are simply 9x19 dies with different caliber markings.
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....SOOOOOR-RYYYYYYY!
Not sure why I went off on a tangent and I don't remember the reasoning, if any.
I recently bought a set of .380 dies. I didn't want to use my 9mm set because they are (finally) set up good. But I forgot that I had a spare 9mm LEE set for some reason that I could have tried. Well, durn.
I MAY try it just for kicks.
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