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AJ amd I were kinda comparing stuff on the new acquisitions thread...and he did notice we were kinda hijacking the thread.....So
I'm just wondering ...are there any other collectors/users of old/vintage reloading tools on the boards here? Especially pre 1965? If you do...let us know what you have/ise. I just called Lyman about some small partsfor their old Lyman 45 sizer luber...No luck there. . I recently bought 6 of the old sizer/lubers all in parts...and need a few small parts to finish up putting the lsdt 2 back in service...yeah...the old stuff still works if''n you can get all the parts
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I don’t know about pre ‘65 but I have a thing for the Lyman All American turret presses.
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My Lyman 55 powder measure is probably pre '65, not sure how to tell, though.
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I'm still using a Texan turret press from the '60s for all my handgun cartridge loading. I bought it used about 1980. I've sold many pieces of old loading equipment, presses, etc. at large gun shows over the last forty+ years just to get it out of the way. Some of it I'd had since 1965 when I began handloading.
I don't collect this stuff. I've found none of it brings much on the used market, except possibly for Ebay and gun forum sites. The last press I bought (other than four progressives which are long gone) was an RCBS Big Max at a gun store auction about thirty-five years ago. It was all of $10.00.
I doubt newer presses offer anything over the old stuff other than newness, though newness alone is a big deal to some.
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You said "OLD". Maybe I can help.
I have a single stage CH press that I would guess is from the 1960's. So, not really old. It was set up for .38 spl. ONLY. I took the ram out and found that a Lee ram fit perfectly, so now with different shell holders it can load anything.
My Great Uncle was a blacksmith. He kept a 12 ga. under his workbench just in case robbers came along. The gun was passed down and it's in MY safe now.
Apparently, though, he also rolled his own. Checking the sizes of the tools it looks to also be for a 12 ga. Based on family history I would date the tools to about 1900.
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Like guns the reloadin people have to make new tuff just to keep making a profit. The new stuff for the most part doesn't work a whole lot better...some maybe faster. Look at scales...the new ones work faster...digital...but I have an old Pacific scale from thje 50s...still works fine after 75 years. Get a digital to do that. ...The All American Turret Press is still a great press. I sold all of mine...the best scale ever made for the money was the RCBS 510...made by Ohaus. The new iteration of the RC is no better than the okd ersion...just prettier. That old RCBS swaging press from 1947 still makes good bullets 78 years later...the old CH Mark IV still turns out good ammo at 65 YO. . As far as the value of the older stuff...you can still at least break even after all that time...maybe even make money... I have always made a bit of money after using the tools. BTW I also like the Lyman 55 powder measure. One of the best ever made. Find 'em at gun shows for 10-40 dollars
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My Lyman 55 powder measure is probably pre '65, not sure how to tell, though.
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I have and still use 2 old Lyman 55 powder measures.
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Skeet,
I just found this...........
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I have and still use 2 old Lyman 55 powder measures.
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Me too. I have 2 that I use and another one NIB...They made them in gray and orange...I have to get this computer loading pics so I can post pics of some of this stuff. And sell some on ebay
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Darn the luck............ I started back in '66.
However I do have a few really old, shooters.
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My Lyman 310 tools would probably fit your criteria because I like the steel handled version. My primary turret press is an All American (also Lyman) that came out in the mid ‘60s, IIRC. To me, old generally equates to good.
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Most of my older stuff has found new homes. These 310 Tools are what I started reloading on eons ago. There are two Lyman Tools and one Ideal in the first picture. The longer dies are 30-06 and the shorter ones .45 ACP. The second picture shows a Lyman Tru-Line Jr. Press and a bunch of dies for it. The neat thing is that all of the dies will interchange. Just more stuff to dust as I use a full size Lyman Turret Press for reloading. Will dig around and see what else I have. For sure I have one or two Lyman No. 55 Powder Measures somewhere.......
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I've brought 3 of the Ohaus Duo-measure's back to life in the last year. IMO, the best powder measure out there.
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Du o measureI agree..one of the best measures ever made but with one fatal flaw...The tapered end of the reservoir. Ihave a couple one has been retrofitted with metal based reservoir by an expert machinist. Got it in aabox of reloading items auction for 10 dollars...didn't have the pistol powder part of the darn thing...but found one at a gun show in a dealers junk box for a buck. Ohaus made some great stuff. I like their brand scales too. esp their triple beam balance scales
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Ohaus made some great stuff. I like their brand scales too. esp their triple beam balance scales
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This is and isn't an Ohaus. It was made by Ohaus for RCBS and is a Model 304. On the side of the box is a price tag from Edelmans for $174.99. I bought it off the local gun shop for $20.00. Have several other beam scales, but do not use them. I have an RCBS Chargemaster 1500 for when I need a scale.
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Here are the powder reservoirs that I use:
Ohaus – DRAM WORX
When you refer to the pistol part, what do you mean? I just move the pin and the handle to go from the large to the small chambers.
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I didn't know about the Dramworx reservoirs. Pretty darned expensive. Is it held in place with the screws like the original?? The pistol powder part is screw adjustable and lockable with an allen wrench...don't remember how many grains it goes to. I was lucky to find the darn thing. I have one of the 304 RCBS scales.. Works well. Have a 314 and a 311 Cent o Gram too. Have a RCBS chargemaster and don't really like it much. Seldom gets used.
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I was really glad when someone started offering a glass replacement for my DUO-Measure reservoir. Can't remember the company name, but got one that is pretty TALL. Wish he offered a Short one too, but glad to have measure back in service. Anyone suggest something for outlet spout replacement?
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I was really glad when someone started offering a glass replacement for my DUO-Measure reservoir. Can't remember the company name, but got one that is pretty TALL. Wish he offered a Short one too, but glad to have measure back in service. Anyone suggest something for outlet spout replacement?
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I've made 3 of these and they work well. The glass reservoirs are made by Dramworx.
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I am still using my “old” stuff. Most from the 70’s. Some newer tools that will be old someday.
Taken care of well built reloading equipment will last a lifetime.
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I have a couple that are set up for different loads...........Don't use them much though.
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I still use my Dad's Lyman/Ideal No.5 powder measure , no need for a newer one !
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Beam scales that I have, but do not use. Just part of my collection of stuff.
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I have several 310 tools, one is Ideal and nickel plated. The oldest of the Lyman tools I have shipped in 1947 and is Hot Blued! That 1947 310 shipped with 22 Hornet dies. All told I have 7 tools and around 20 sets of dies. 44 S&W Russian & Special, 45 Colt, 45 ACP, 38 Special, 38 S&W, 222 Rem, 22 Hornet, 22 K Hornet, 30-06, 7.7 & 6.5 Jap., 6.5 Carcano, 8mm Mauser, 32 S&W Long and short to name a few. The 310s I have, are marked Large, Small, and one is marked Hornet. (The 310 with dies that shipped in 1947 went to a home in Columbus, Ohio. It cost Lyman 44 cents for First Class postage. That home is gone now, and that is a really BAD Neighborhood now!)
I use a very late Lyman 55 "Black Powder" Version with a foot tall all aluminum hopper.
I load 117 metallic cartridges, with 7/8-14 dies. My favorite set is 219 Donaldson Wasp, These were Harry's back-up set! (They were given to me by his cousin around 2000)
I have about 12 Lyman Arbor Press Dies, they are a single FL die and a knock out rod, most are pretty common 8x56, 30-06, 308, 30-30. The treasure is in 219 Zipper!
In the 80s & 90s the WWII Reloaders were dying off fast. I could get 1950s & 1960s single stage presses with one or two sets of dies for $20. For the missionaries at church, I would use an old toolbox to make a reloading kit. These included a press, dies, priming tool, Lee powder scoops. Depending on the national laws: Pound of powder (most commonly IMR 3031), 300 primers, & 300 bullets. Mostly for WWI or II Surplus rifles. They took lots of deer/goat type food animals. Also, lots of garden pests! My kits went to Australia, Bolivia, and South Africa.
I still have my first Lee Loader in 303 British, and around 15 more (all rifle).
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I use a '70s era RCBS Jr. for resizing/decapping/flare necking, and I have 4 Truline Jr. turrets, each equipped with a Lyman #55 for operations requiring a less robust press. I have 310/TruLine dies for several calibers, and several 310 tong tools. There are quite a few of the old style 'j' type shell holders, primer punches, and lots of odds & ends. I have identified nearly all of the dies with an ancient TruLine parts list. I also got a lubrisizer in a box of stuff, but I don't see where I will ever get it running. Perhaps one of you guys can use it. It may be only useful as parts.
My setup is strictly a rinky-dink, mongrel assortment, but it works. I reckon if the stuff worked for the old timers decades ago, it'll work for me as well.
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I still have a couple Tru Line Jrs. One of the old style mechanical advantage and one of the later stronger MA.. There was not much difference. Also have a CC Johnson Red Top that takes the same 310 dies. Have a few Tong Tools both steel and Aluminum. I have a few very old Ideal items including a 44 cal mold that is made with the handles and mold blocks one piece. They quit making them that way by 1927 or 28. . Part of the reason I got into this discussion was because I called Lyman to ask what size threaded bolts attach the handles on the old Lyman 45 suzers...I wasn't really expecting them to have the part...but they don't even know the size! One of my first metallic loading tools other than the Lyman tong tool was a screw together affair that I thought Pacific made back in the 60s They also ha a kit called a measure kit that attached to powder cans to throw powder charges First metallic round for me was in 1958...a tong tool in 22 Hornet. I use old Herter's presses to decap and size ...Ugly but they work
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First of all... I don't consider anything close to pre 65 old. I'm still using my fathers Pacific "C" press, Redding balance beam scale, and Redding case trimmer. They were all bought in the early 1960s. I just retired his two sets of Pacific dies from the same time, 30-06 and 222 Remington.
But now, if you want to see something really old, I have a few Ideal reloading tools... 32 S&W, 32 S&W Long, 32-20, 32-40, 38-55, 38-40.
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The only things I have that might qualify are a couple of Lee loaders. This neophyte started loading in the 70's.
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carelesslove, here !
Anyone still use "Bullseye" Powder Measures ?
I have one relegated to an obscure box, under the reloading bench - with a 2.7 gr. and 5.0 gr. drum, detailed operating instructions, and the original box.
It seems to a fine, apparently well-functioning tool, but like a lot of things (these days) isn't seeing any usage.
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I have one of the Pacific powder kits, still in the box. It came with an empty can, the same shape as the 1-pound DuPont cans from the 70's, in case your powder came in the cubical tins. (And now plastic jars.
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I have one of the Meaure kit cans...looks like the DuPont type cans but seems a bit larger. Then there are the predecessor's tp the Lee Powder scoops. I was given a whole bunch of homemade scoops made by an old shooter of the 20s and thirties...40s 50s too.. He made them to load the hornet 257 Roberts and many others. He put them in old snuff and tobacco cans marked with calibers...I even have most of a box of 222 Remington he loaded on Jan 4 1959...21.5 gr 4198 50 gr Sierra and a Rem 6 1/2 primer in Western cases...I bought his first year Rem 722 in 1961...with the scoop he made for that powder charge. I still use that same load in 222 and 223 except Nosler 40 gr BT in the 222...with his scoop...BTW...Not really old...but the Lee powder scoops are their best product...and they made a Lee Target Model Lee loader. ...Worked well too. No pounding the primer in with them
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carelesslove, here !
Anyone still use "Bullseye" Powder Measures ?
I have one relegated to an obscure box, under the reloading bench - with a 2.7 gr. and 5.0 gr. drum, detailed operating instructions, and the original box.
It seems to a fine, apparently well-functioning tool, but like a lot of things (these days) isn't seeing any usage.
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I have one of the Meaure kit cans...looks like the DuPont type cans but seems a bit larger. Then there are the predecessor's tp the Lee Powder scoops. I was given a whole bunch of homemade scoops made by an old shooter of the 20s and thirties...40s 50s too.. He made them to load the hornet 257 Roberts and many others. He put them in old snuff and tobacco cans marked with calibers...I even have most of a box of 222 Remington he loaded on Jan 4 1959...21.5 gr 4198 50 gr Sierra and a Rem 6 1/2 primer in Western cases...I bought his first year Rem 722 in 1961...with the scoop he made for that powder charge. I still use that same load in 222 and 223 except Nosler 40 gr BT in the 222...with his scoop...BTW...Not really old...but the Lee powder scoops are their best product...and they made a Lee Target Model Lee loader. ...Worked well too. No pounding the primer in with them
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The Bullseye measure was a short squat powder measure...most were red? But think I remember them in brown too. I gave one to a friend. Don't even want to get into powder measures. I must have 30 different ones plus duplicates...Another company that has not been named...yet...is Hollywood. They made some great tools too
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Just thought I would ask...is there anyone out there that stilluses Hollywood press...powder measure or dies? Not long ago I bought an odd Holluwood press. It was a Hollywood Jr press. Omly the 2nd I have ever seen. ...got it at a for a better word..yard /garage sale. Really just a bunch of junk in the guys yard. He didn't know what it was and had been sitting outside most of the winter...lukily un-rusted in good condition. Only the 2nd I have ever seen. Have been offered 150 for it...I paid 5. I use a ser of dies by Hollywood...I bought a pre war Model 70 Super Grade in 22 K Hornet and got the dies with it...luckily
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