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06-13-2009, 08:30 PM
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HBWC loads in .357 brass
What are some of your favorite loads for HBWCs in .357?
Also, what do you guys use WCs for besides paper punching?
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06-13-2009, 08:39 PM
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I used to use them for home defense years ago but have since decided there are too many liability issues with handloads for HD, and there are a great number of factory rounds that will do the job without any legal ramifications. I forget the exact load but it did involve accidentally loading the HBWC upside down.
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3.0 grains of Bullseye in a .357 case and a Zero HBWC.
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I use 2.8 gr Bullseye, same as I use for .38 special cases.
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I've never bothered with .357 cases. I like the HBWC in a .38 special case, hollow base forward, over 3.0 grains Bullseye (a standard target loading usually producing around 750 FPS in a 2-inch revolver).
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06-14-2009, 03:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LoboGunLeather
I've never bothered with .357 cases. I like the HBWC in a .38 special case, hollow base forward, over 3.0 grains Bullseye (a standard target loading usually producing around 750 FPS in a 2-inch revolver).
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With the hollow base forward, don't they get unstable? It also seems like they would slow down really fast.
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HB wadcutter
The HB forward idea has on-again and off-again popularity with handloaders. The driving force seems to be the truly impressive expansion seen on ballistic gelatin targets, something that is hard to get when firing .38 Specials from a snubnose revolver.
However, the NRA Technical Advisor has stated that .38 HB wadcutters loaded with HB forward is a bad idea because the HB skirt frequently blows off and is left stuck in the forcing cone. A followup shot of course, will damage the gun.
As for accuracy, the reversed bullet is strictly a close range affair. The HB bullet is designed with weight forward, and optimum accuracy greatly decreases beyond the 50 yard point.
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John Traveler is entirely correct regarding accuracy beyond 50 yards. The loading described is intended for close-range defensive use only, and for that purpose it is completely devastating in performance.
I have loaded and fired many hundreds of this type over the past 30-plus years, fired in 2" to 4" revolvers with no problems whatsoever. I would suggest that having the weight to the rear might just drive any potential obstruction out the bore, rather than leaving a forward portion lodged there.
I have also been present at an autopsy during which I was required to photograph the coroner's examination and recover physical evidence from the process. I cannot compare the results to anything attempted in ballistic gelatin or other media. The coroner was a very experienced pathologist, and described the results as the most devastating wound he had ever seen from a handgun fired into a human being's torso.
The HBWC design was developed to perform on the shuttle-cock principle (weight forward), with the added benefit of a thinly-skirted rear hollow-base that would expand into the rifling (much like the Minie bullet design).
In my experience, loading the HBWC with hollow-base forward works very well at close ranges, provided that the pressures and velocity are kept within standard velocity parameters.
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